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kungfucampby
Giants are smart spenders, huh? The team that gave you the Zito, Rowand, Huff, and now Lincecum and Pence contracts spend money smartly, you say?
thomstitute
Kiss the rings
UK Tiger
Strange Gregg cant find a home somewhere after putting up 62 innings of 114 ERA+ ball…that said with the constantly evolving nature of a big league bullpen im sure he’ll find a home soon.
adaman
I think it’s more that it’s been a while since his peripherals have been particularly good. Last year his FIP/xFIP were 4.10/4.38, and he walked 4.65 per 9 innings.
It sounds like he’ll only accept a major league deal – if he were willing to take a minor league deal, I’m sure he’d be in AAA somewhere, and maybe he’d be in the majors already if he could dominate in AAA. But I don’t think teams want to gamble by giving him a guaranteed major league job, especially as he probably wants at least a million dollars.
That said, several teams would probably benefit from his presence, including the Cubs.
DarthMurph
The Giants are not smart spenders. Paying a little more to keep guys like Lincecum, Pence, and Lopez around might appease the fans, but that isn’t smart spending. Couple that with the poor value they’ve got from non bargain bin free agents and they definitely don’t belong on the list.
Shankbone
Javy Lopez has been worth 3.5 WAR and 2 rings over the past 4 years while being paid around 11MM. By the old standard 1WAR = 5MM that would qualify as a bargain, and a smart spend. Pence doubled up on WAR value in his walk year after winning his ring during the trade theft from the Phils. Lincecum might be overpaid, but he’s been expensive for a while now, that’s what happens when you win CYs.
There just haven’t been that many free agents. The bargain ones in the past 4 years have provided some pretty amazing value. The non-bargain ones? Hit home runs off of Cliff Lee.
DarthMurph
I don’t subscribe to the notion that WAR has a set monetary value. A 3 year deal for a non setup/closer is at a high AAV is very risky.
Shankbone
Not really. Its actually chump change, and not all leftys or Loogys are the same. Lopez is one of, or possibly the best in the majors.
Hills of Glenallen
The Cubs are bad spenders? The only Free Agents they’ve signed are guys they flipped at the deadline for prospects. How is that not smart? (The loan exception would be EJax, but does one bad deal really put them at the bottom?)
adaman
It’s over the last five years, not just the last two or three, and it looks at player payroll overall, not just free agent signings (so, arbitration and extension stuff too). It’s comparing how much they’ve spent to how much they’ve won.
Also, they’ve been nearly as bad as the Astros and Marlins for the past two years, but the Astros and Marlins have done it with a fraction of the price. Even this year, the Cubs have a $92.7M payroll. Marlins have $45.8M, Astros have $50.5M.
forkball27
So would the Tigers kick the Tires on Gregg? What about Hanrahan? All I know is that the Tigers need bullpen help quick!