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Te Stone
Will be very happy to see Soriano leave at the end of the year…He has caused more heartburn thst a pepperoni pizza….
vtadave
Man I don’t know about the Dodgers’ bullpen being “well stocked”. I hope you’re right, but half the guys they bring in (Wilson, Wright, League, etc.) give me heartburn.
Jeff Todd
I mean volume, not necessarily quality. (Expanded rosters.)
108 stitches
The Rollins situation is intriguing to me. Hamstrings almost always are worse than first thought. Teams often don’t utilize the DL the same way with expanded rosters, I understand that. Still if Rollins is unable to be of use to the Roster for the rest of the season why should the Phillies not place him on the DL? I know that their would be the potential for backlash from potential future free agents and the Players Association would at least make noise over Rollins going on the DL. Still it makes me uncomfortable that the Phillies need to feel obliged to not put him on the DL when potentially he is of no use to game action.
Jeff Todd
I’m not exactly sure how that would shake out, but it would probably generate a lot of interest, attention, and controversy.
108 stitches
With all the bad publicity around the Phillies, combined with Rollins productive year (3.5 fWAR) and his long tenure with the team as a core player the Phillies are kind of stuck with keeping him. That may be the best course for them anyway (trade bait at the deadline next year?). Still it’s interesting.
Jeff Todd
Yeah, I think they would (and should) otherwise pick up his $8MM club option — who else is going to play short anyway? It’s really a $3MM question.
108 stitches
Thank you for the article by the way. I was not aware of that part of his contract. I always look for your Posts on here. Youz always be learnin me something! :p
Jeff Todd
My pleasure, glad it was informative. Credit goes to Steve Adams for the original vesting clause post this year — I just updated it based on how things have played out.
Hominy Falls
While I generally agree with this article the Scott Downs vesting clause is most certainly no longer a “moot” point, my guess is Mr. Todd (and many writers) needs to look up the definition of ‘moot” but whether the option will vest is no longer up for debate
Jeff Todd
“Moot in British English means arguable, doubtful, or open to debate. Americans often use it to mean hypothetical or academic, i.e. of no practical significance.”
– The Economist Style Guide, Profile Books, 2005
When a word is used a certain way for a long time, it can gain new meaning. That, after all, is how words are formed in the first place. I am an American discussing an American sport in America. The question whether the clause will vest — and discussion of it — is now of mere hypothetical interest.
jb226 2
Ironically as an American I had no idea there was another use of the word other than how we use it. To me it has always been “just for the purpose of argumentation.” So I learned something new either way.
Just be glad you didn’t do the other thing many Americans do and call it “mute” — I would have led the pitchfork brigade myself.
Jeff Todd
I’d have gladly fallen on that pitchfork!
Melvin Mendoza, Jr.
It seems like teams usually do the ethical thing when it comes to situations similar to Rollins’ in this case. For example last year the Twins didn’t bench Mike Pelfrey to prevent him from reaching an innings requirement to get a substantial bonus, even though it was at the end of the season and they were well out of contention. For a player who has done as much as Rollins has for the Phillies, I hope they do right by him here.
WolandJR
Glad to see Soriano won’t be back in DC next year. Unless he shows any improvement over the next three weeks, he is an expensive candidate to be left off the postseason roster.
Jeff Todd
It’s going to be interesting to see what they do with the pen for the playoffs. I think they’ll have to give Soriano every opportunity to regain his confidence over the next few weeks — the guy isn’t Craig Kimbrel, obviously, but he’s still an effective big league reliever on the whole. (Not that he has to or should have another shot at the 9th.)
Then you have the question of which lefties and what to do with the displaced starter(s) … good problems to have, mostly, but very tough calls to be made.
WolandJR
An issue with Soriano is how inconsistent he has preformed over his career in non-save situations. So if he does lose the 9th inning job, how will he react to being sent out for the 7th?
But yes, only good problems for the Nats at this point of the season when it comes to their pitching staff. For my money, I’d rather have Aaron Barrett out there than Soriano. Just seems like Sori has lost his release point in the second half of the year and has no idea where the ball is going. I’m interested to see how things work out over the next 3 weeks…
DarthMurph
I think Philly deserves some credit for not trying to weasel out of Rollins’ contract.