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Rally Weimaraner
Extending Yost would be a mistake. Making the WS doesn’t mean you have a good manager.
davbee
No, but it doesn’t mean you have a bad manager either.
Rally Weimaraner
No poor BP management means you have a bad manager though
davbee
Really? Yost managed his bullpen brilliantly, identifying early in the season that Herrara (1.71), Davis (1.00) and Holland (1.44) would lock down the 7th, 8th and 9th innings. Find something else to criticize him for. Bullpen management sure isn’t it.
davbee
And it’s not like those three guys were locks coming into the year. Their ERAs in 2013 were Herrera (3.86) and Davis (5.32 as mostly a starter), with only Holland (1.21) as a bullpen certainty.
Rally Weimaraner
You realize having really talented reliever and managing your pen well are two very different things, right? Yost did not pay any attention to who was hitting or what the situation was. When the Royal had a lead Herrera pitched the 7th, Davis the 8th and Holland the 9th. Anybody could have followed that plan, a good manager looks at the situation and picks the right reliever based of who is at bat/on base.
davbee
Davis wasn’t a talented reliever. He was an untalented starter with a 5.32 ERA the previous season. Yost was the one that converted him to the pen and then moved him into the 8th inning role where he was the best in baseball last season. Shrewd managing.
Rally Weimaraner
What are you talking about? The rays first turned Davis into a reliever in 2012, and he was great for them. Then KC tried to make him starter again and he did terribly so they sent him back to the pen. If anything Yost should be criticized for not sending him back to the pen in 2013.
davbee
Yost simply had no other starter options in 2013 after Shields and Santana. Guthrie won 15 games, but his FIP (4.79) was more than a half run worse than Davis’ (4.18). Mendoza was a complete bust and things were so bad that he had to take 36-year old Bruce Chen out of the bullpen after the all star break (who actually pitched reasonably well). Yost could barely piece together a five man starting rotation in 2013. He needed Davis to start out of necessity.
rich 3
I’ll spare you the splits, but rest assured that Davis was a lights out reliever when he had been used there previously. And by lights out I mean close to unhittable. He was so good in that role it was actually insane for them to move him back into the rotation.
Dock_Elvis
He converted himself to the pen by tanking as a starter…don’t give Yost all that credit.
Colin Christopher
You realize that having Herrera pitch the 7th, Davis the 8th, and Holland the 9th WAS the right choice, right? Those three succeeded no matter who was hitting or what the situation was. Why should Yost should have deviated from that plan?
Dock_Elvis
Yost’s mismanagement of the pen single handedly cost them the central… That’s a fact. He had multiple games that he even admitted to not managing well. One in Boston he failed to bring Herrera in in the six…cause.. “Man, one more out and we had our 7th inning guy in there.” He’s a questionable manager, to think any other way just isn’t fair.
jury_rigger
BJ Upton/Nolasco bad contract swap with Braves kicking in cash, prospects, or another piece?
Pei Kang
or maybe swap Nolasco with Ubaldo.
buffalonichols
Why in the world would the Twins even consider that?
Unassisted Triple Play
Oh exactly! Espacially when the Twins have blue chippers in the wings to take over in the outfield. Nolasco has a decent shot at a nice rebound year and Twins need rotation pieces. Dead on buffalo, dead on!
buffalonichols
And to be clear, while I agree Nolasco has the chance to rebound in 2015, I think the Twins should be exploring trade opportunities with him. I just think the B.J. Upton idea is terrible.
ea19
They would be trading EXTREMELY low on him! They would be lucky just to unload his contract. Hopefully he has a bounce back year because the Twins will need him, Hughes, and Gibson to pitch well
Grebek7
Hanrahan could be a great pickup for a terrible bullpen. He was a beast for the Pirates a couple years ago.
Dock_Elvis
An extension for Yost? Really…how on God’s green Earth is that possible…he’s clinging to that job it seems