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go_jays_go
What the media misunderstands is that the Blue Jays ALREADY have found their replacement for AA.
His name is Mark Shapiro.
The GM role is nothing more than a puppet role now, because it is Shapiro that gets final say in all baseball decisions. The Rogers’ execs basically decided to merge the President & GM duties into one role and hand it over to Shapiro.
bobbleheadguru
I wonder if Shapiro thought the Price deal was lopsided. Is VanMan (Norris) really that good? Would he have not made the deal?
stormie
I think it’s safe to say that’s the case. I doubt he’s taking umbrage at giving up middle-of-the-road prospects for Revere or Lowe. It’s giving up Norris, Castro, and Hoffman for Price and Tulo. Still, even though the Jays didn’t win the WS, it’s hard to argue with the results of a re-energized fanbase that sold out nearly every game the last two months. Shapiro has to be very careful that whatever stamp he tries to put on the team this offseason doesn’t alienate that fanbase and kill its momentum.
DAKINS
He will have the ultimate say, but you misunderstand how these decisions are made. Even AA will tell you that a lot of the leg work is on the scouts and assistants. They present the GM with the options and suggestions, then he makes a decision.
go_jays_go
Then why are you arguing points in my favour?
“it is Shapiro that gets final say in all baseball decisions.”
And then you concur:
“[The scouts and assistants] present the GM with the options and suggestions, then he makes a decision.”
Sasha C. Handelman
Would be interesting to see if DD is willing to sell high on JBJ and go after Gotdon.
Gordon in Fenway would have his range limited by playing left field but with his ability, arm and intelligence he’d be great!
Offensively he’s balance out a very right handed lineup and with his opposite field power would pepper the monster !!
Ray Ray
Sell high on JBJ? I think JBJ had a LOT more value two years ago as a prospect before everyone realized he could barely hit in the majors. I really don’t get how you could consider hitting .249 a resurgence, but to each their own. He’ll end up a 4th or 5th outfielder on a decent team or a mediocre starter on a bad team.
start_wearing_purple
How about an .832 OPS? Or a 2.4 WAR in half a season of play? Or a UZR of 10.1? Batting average alone isn’t an indicator of much.
Granted, I don’t see him as a future star and with his various hitting surges I’m still not sure how to classify the kid. However writing him off makes no sense. Considering he’s a solid fielder with a plus arm and has shown that he can handle major league pitching when he finally listens to his coaches, I think if he hit the market then there would be a lot of interest.
stymeedone
What GM is going to base his trade on a half season of stats? The overall body of work makes him a defensive replacement, and pinch runner. Sell high, my friend.
Ray Ray
Batting average alone is not an indicator of anything other than the ability to hit in the majors. Yes, the guy can take a walk and is a very good/great defender which profiles him as a 4th or 5th outfielder. I never said anything about writing him off. I said he has a lot less value now than two years ago, which is true, that says nothing about writing him off.
Willy
You obviously didnt see Jackie and his total lack of a bat before this season. In short order this season he hit more HR’s and hit for a higher AVG then he ever has before. So YES he had a resurgence.
Lance
jackie had an outstanding august, but did poorly in september. so how should the bosox handle this? was that one flash in august worth another starting shot or should they pay millions more for a guy like gordon who will be 32 next season? remember, it took nelson cruz a few years before he put things together.
Ray Ray
I don’t care what they do with him to be honest. All I said was that they wouldn’t be selling high on him because he had his highest value before he got to the majors.
warren r.
People working in Rogers’ Sportsnet media division have pointed out that the original reporting that AA was “scolded” by Shapiro for trading away too many arms came from a reporter employed by TSN, which is owned by Bell Media, Rogers’ primary competitor in all things media-wise in Canada. TSN’s editorial bent has been viciously anti-Rogers and anti-Shapiro through all this. Here’s one example but there’s a ton more:
tsn.ca/mlb/video/how-should-fans-feel-about-anthop…
One of the guys on the Brady & Walker show on SN590 went to far as to suggest that Bell is pissed about Rogers beating them in TV ratings with the Blue Jays run this year, and this is how Bell is venting their frustration. Nasty, nasty stuff all around.
Further still, AA was pretty annoyed that people from his group were leaking details about his contract negotiation status and timelines to members of the media despite his wish to keep his business private. I’m sure he won’t be sad to get away from this aspect of this job.
DAKINS
Which means you have to take either side’s stories with a grain of salt. Sportsnet has been setting up AA as the fall guy since the story broke.
bobbleheadguru
Alex Gordon is NOT a fit for the Red Sox.
His arm would be wasted in Left Field.
jrwhite21
I agree with you. What about a move to right though? Right field in Fenway is pretty big and would compliment his arm well. Plus his intelligence, oppo swing, and left handedness all fit in the lineup
ASapsFables
The White Sox are not a “plausible landing spot” for impending free agent shortstop Ian Desmond.
Short term, the White Sox can simply pick up their $10M 2016 team option on veteran SS Alexei Ramirez or buy him out for $1M and let Tyler Saladino and Carlos Sanchez compete for the position.
Long term, White Sox #1 prospect Tim Anderson figures to open the 2016 campaign debuting at AAA Charlotte. If he continues to progress there as he did at AA last season, their prized SS could be ready for prime time duty later this season or by opening day in 2017.
If the White Sox view themselves as contenders in 2016, they would be wise to pick up Ramirez’ option for the net cost of $9M. That investment would be substantially less than what Desmond will command on the open market this off-season. While Ramirez is four years older than Desmond, metrics suggest the shortstops are comparable players. If the White Sox struggle getting out of the gate as they did in 2015, they would always have the option of trading Ramirez to a contender by the summer trade deadline. At that point, the club could consider promoting Anderson to the 25-man active roster or just finish out the season with Saladino or Sanchez.
Bob Sacamano 310
Maybe they could slide Desmond to third when the time comes?
ASapsFables
Desmond’s power and glove would definitely play at third base. The White Sox are also in dire need of an upgrade at the hot corner.
The questions are the dollars and the desire of Desmond to move off the shortstop position in his prime years. He is the top SS on the free agent market this off-season and there are plenty of teams in need of one.
I like your thought but I still don’t see the White Sox investing the kind of money that Desmond will command in free agency when they have cheaper short and long term SS options available within their organization. Desmond will have plenty of teams to choose from. All things being equal financially, Desmond may pick a team that ensures he can remain at the shortstop position for the duration of his next contract.
Willy
Castillo should be the one moved, not Jackie, BUT I do agree the Sox should be looking at new options for 1 OF position.