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aprogie
Damnnnnn
cardfan2011
Lynn never did look the same aft er the first couple of months. He was walking more batters, wasn’t getting strikeouts, and he never seemed to go past the 6th inning. Hopefully, when he does return, he can return to full strength. Go Cards!
timyanks
lynn, like most cardinal pitchers, throws their 100 pitch in the 5th or6th inning
cardfan2011
Lol yup. From 2015, Lackey and Garcia were really the only ones who could pitch farther more often.
jherrera617
It seems like every year this team has a major injury to a starting pitcher and the organization steps up. Losing Lynn and potentially Lackey and Heyward to free agency will be big blows, but I am curious to see what the Cards do next.
leefieux
As a Pirate fan, I am pretty sure that this will devastate the Cards just like all of those 2015 injuries ruined their season.
RedFeather
“As a Pirates fan” ha ha so dumb when people have to throw that in there. This will not “ruin” the Cardinals 2016 year dude.. Stick with football.
batman
That was his point…
Rickey O'Sunnyvale
More evidence that “Cardinals have smarter fans” is a myth.
RedFeather
Who has claimed that Cardinals have “smarter fans”? That makes no sense at all.. I just think is funny when people feel the need to state who they are fans of when it’s not relevant at all to the topic.
moe 3
A little slow…
genius.gm.on.mlb.the.show
I think he’s giving your squad some respect brother. I know sarcasm is hard to notice on the Internet sometimes
mattsmattedin
Well this was totally unexpected and totally sucks.
I was thinking Lynn was a great trade piece to offer… And with the Reyes suspension pushing him out of coming up to the majors in 2016 (likely), the rotation as is of:
Wainwright (returning from injury),
Wacha (injury concern),
Martinez (returning from injury),
Garcia (major injury concern)
… now desperately needs at least one additional arm via trade or free agency signing. Lyons and Marco are not long term 2016 options, they are suitable for spot starts next year only.
RedFeather
Mark Buehrle 2 years 20 Million. Wouldn’t mind a 6 man rotation as well to start the year given all the past injuries and potential injuries.
cardfan2011
And he’s a lefty who could eat up innings. I like that idea
A'sfaninUK
It’s a great idea – he won’t need a 2 year deal seeing as he was strongly leaning towards retirement, just one will do.
Has there been any studies about why Cardinals pitchers always seem to get hurt all the time? Who is their coach? Is this a pitcher-abuse thing?
mattsmattedin
Yes, Matheny abuses their pitchers.
One good example is the day after they lost Carlos Mratinez for the year, in late September, Matheny decided to throw Jaime Garcia 8 innings after the lead was 5-0 after 5.
Matheny leaves his starters in too long and only trusts three relievers in his bullpen (Rosenthal, Siegrist, Maness)
A'sfaninUK
Thanks for the reply and example. Interesting, hadn’t heard much about it – just thought Wainwright was little fragile but now guys like Lynn who have an easy action are getting hit with it when he shouldnt be going through this. Its surprising then, that no one on the coastal media has written fluf pieces on him championing his “old school” ways.
I wonder if Molina has any control over this too, is he calling too many offspeed pitches mixed with heaters? Or is it all coming from Matheny? Apologies for my ignorance, I don’t watch much Cardinal baseball as much as I do other teams.
cardfan2011
Dont worry CJ. Were all fans of other teams 🙂
Cletis
Excellent point about the Cards top 5 Starters!!! That’s been my thoughts all along. EVERY ONE of them are coming off injuries or chronic fatigue. Yet Mo still says the team COULD actually stand pat and be a contender!!! Here comes the low hanging fruit again —–that rots before the end of each season!!! I hope I’m wrong, but Mo and the owners have a long history of not signing quality difference maker free agents! They need to sign either– Price (preferably), Grinke, or Zimmerman. Plus, go after Heyward and see if they can back load his contract to where they could also get Chris Davis. Then they’d ha enough spare parts to pick up a front line reliever, with closure experience that’s still in his prime. What do you think?? Am I crazy to wish and hope????
mattsmattedin
At this point, resigning Heyward (obvious) and signing a top of the line pitcher is a must. I do believe it is more likely for NEITHER to happen than for both to happen or even one to happen.
It’s the usual. DeWitt will not open DeWallet. Pirates are similar with their spending tendencies. Cubs should be crowned already.
rogerwilco
See opportunity in misfortune Mr. Mozeliak. You now have an excuse to spend big on Price.
cardfan2011
Well, I would think he wants to resign Heyward instead but it remains to be seen
RedFeather
I hate to say it but I would rather sign Justin Upton for less than what Heyward is going to demand. Lets not forget Upton is only 2 years older than Heyward and has much more offensive production (which is what the Cardinals lacked last year). We really dont need to go out and spend a ton of $$ on defense in RF. Grichuk and Poscotty showed signed of above average defense last year as well.
cardfan2011
Totally agree with you RedFeather. Their offense needs inmprovement. However, Im hearing that should they not sign Heyward, they could sign Chris Davis, although I doubt that.
rogerwilco
Personally I’d rather they let Heyward walk, move up in the draft when the Yankees sign him, and give up the 30th overall pick to the Orioles by signing Chris Davis. That aside though, if the Cardinals want to re-sign Heyward, I don’t see why they couldn’t do both. The Cardinals have a lot more money than people seem to think.
moe 3
Lackey could sign a 2 year deal with the cards Having the compensation pick hanging over him works big in the cards favor…still a big loss Lynn is one of the toughest
cardfan2011
Yes it does, Lynn was considered their #2 starter, so I do believe something will be done to the rotation. Whether it be outside help or from within, the Cardinals always find a way.
iwonderifthisnameworks
I can’t see the Cards signing one of the top pitchers. Probably have to sign Lackey now because their rotation has huge injury concerns. Maybe Gallardo or possibly Leake would be a good option.
Outlaws12
I didn’t see the Cards signing a top tier pitcher, but now I honestly think it is a possibility of Lackey doesn’t accept the qualifying offer or sign a two year deal with them. The cards can back end load some deals with their huge TV contract beginning in 2017
lonewolf
Cards will sign Grienke
Outlaws12
I hope so.
mattsmattedin
I hope so but I surely don’t think so.
Putmeincoach12
I would love to see the Cards sign Grienke above all other pitchers. He can handle a bat and is the best pitcher on the market. The cards have Garcia and Gonzalez as Lefties in the mix already and I wouldn’t want to trust my playoff series on David Price. So many injury questions with the Cards rotation we have to get a top tier innings eating stud.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
Looks like the Tommy John bug struck early this season, (or should I say offseason).
MooseMichaels
This is what I was afraid was going to happen, I just didn’t know who would be the “lucky” winner this time. Unfortunately it fell to the Cardinals workhorse. How this changes their offseason plans remains to be seen.but it doesn’t change the need to either resign Heyward OR go after Chris Davis to add some pop to the line-up. Anyone dreaming of a scenario where they go get Davis and Heyward as well as a David Price is crazy. Since Davis and Heyward will command a contract of a minimum of $140 million (it will be higher) and a minimum length of 6 to 8 years, the Cardinals will look to acquire a pitcher that they can sign for around 4 years at a decent price. I believe Jordan Zimmerman to be that man or maybe a Doug Fister. Trading for pitching is an option too but who are you going to get to add depth and quality to the rotation without giving up the future? If the Cardinals are serious about being able to expand payroll and spend more then now is the time to show it.