well it will be interesting… I would deal him, knowing that he is commanding a good value in return, and also, the fluctuations of relievers from year to year. I think hes gone, way to much smoke …. and it makes a lot of sense for the Phillies. This is just posturing at the moment.
Niekro
Who holds out longer on their closer the Reds or Phillies, Phillies seem to be in a better position since they have Giles controlled longer and can afford to do this.
Are Papelbon Storen even being shopped? I thought one of them would be the first to move.
AstrosWS20
I’d love for the Astros to get him, but not if it’s gonna cost a ton. The closer market is interesting. Kimbrel demanded a ton, but K-Rod was rather cheap. We shall see what happens. I’d give up two pretty solid prospects and a lottery ticket for Giles if I’m Luhnow, but no talks about Reed or Cameron.
guillermo23
i know that the odds of this happening are slim to none. but what would take boston to acquire him too?. it would be awesome to have a bullpen with giles and kimbrel
woodhead1986
“we’re looking to add players like Ken Giles”…why? you’re a dead in the water, last place club, but you’re looking to add relief arms? ok then…
kingjenrry
By that, he means young, talented players making the league minimum. Besides, it’s almost certainly just posturing. If the Phils can get a package similar to the Kimbrel deal, they’ll pull the trigger in a heartbeat.
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The Kimbrel package was for prospects. They’ve acquired a lot of prospects The Phillies need young, talented players who’ve done something in the majors. So I don’t think they’ll look for a deal like Boston made.
philly435
Yes they will do a deal like Boston made. The Phillies are going to keep stockpiling prospects since they won’t be in contention for another couple years. That’s just reality.
And relief pitching is so volatile anyway. Guys rise and fall incredibly quickly so it’s good to sell high
genius.gm.on.mlb.the.show
Did you see this coming back in 2011?
DannyQ3913
As a lifelong fan I say don’t trade him. Then again he made be 30 by the time they’re relevant again
kingjenrry
If they can get something close to the Kimbrel deal, they shouldn’t even think twice. Margot should be contributing in the Majors by 2017. With Franco up, Crawford coming up in 2016, hopefully Quinn coming up in 2016 or 2017, and guys like Nola, Eickhoff, and the rest developing, 2017 seems to be the year the Phillies should focus on. With Howard coming off the books that year, the Phils could also go in on an intriguing F.A. class – Gómez, Encarnación, Reddick, Bautista, Strasburg, Wilson Ramos, and a bunch of other talented players are hitting free agency that year.
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Who are the relievers in that free agent class? The Phillies will have 0 reliable bullpen arms if they trade Giles. So they’ll have to sign a lot of free agent relievers.
jleve618
I’d hate to see him go so early, unless he brings back the goods in return. Adding Jake Diekman to the Hamels deal hurt enough.
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tac3
well it will be interesting… I would deal him, knowing that he is commanding a good value in return, and also, the fluctuations of relievers from year to year. I think hes gone, way to much smoke …. and it makes a lot of sense for the Phillies. This is just posturing at the moment.
Niekro
Who holds out longer on their closer the Reds or Phillies, Phillies seem to be in a better position since they have Giles controlled longer and can afford to do this.
Are Papelbon Storen even being shopped? I thought one of them would be the first to move.
AstrosWS20
I’d love for the Astros to get him, but not if it’s gonna cost a ton. The closer market is interesting. Kimbrel demanded a ton, but K-Rod was rather cheap. We shall see what happens. I’d give up two pretty solid prospects and a lottery ticket for Giles if I’m Luhnow, but no talks about Reed or Cameron.
guillermo23
i know that the odds of this happening are slim to none. but what would take boston to acquire him too?. it would be awesome to have a bullpen with giles and kimbrel
woodhead1986
“we’re looking to add players like Ken Giles”…why? you’re a dead in the water, last place club, but you’re looking to add relief arms? ok then…
kingjenrry
By that, he means young, talented players making the league minimum. Besides, it’s almost certainly just posturing. If the Phils can get a package similar to the Kimbrel deal, they’ll pull the trigger in a heartbeat.
double
The Kimbrel package was for prospects. They’ve acquired a lot of prospects The Phillies need young, talented players who’ve done something in the majors. So I don’t think they’ll look for a deal like Boston made.
philly435
Yes they will do a deal like Boston made. The Phillies are going to keep stockpiling prospects since they won’t be in contention for another couple years. That’s just reality.
And relief pitching is so volatile anyway. Guys rise and fall incredibly quickly so it’s good to sell high
genius.gm.on.mlb.the.show
Did you see this coming back in 2011?
DannyQ3913
As a lifelong fan I say don’t trade him. Then again he made be 30 by the time they’re relevant again
kingjenrry
If they can get something close to the Kimbrel deal, they shouldn’t even think twice. Margot should be contributing in the Majors by 2017. With Franco up, Crawford coming up in 2016, hopefully Quinn coming up in 2016 or 2017, and guys like Nola, Eickhoff, and the rest developing, 2017 seems to be the year the Phillies should focus on. With Howard coming off the books that year, the Phils could also go in on an intriguing F.A. class – Gómez, Encarnación, Reddick, Bautista, Strasburg, Wilson Ramos, and a bunch of other talented players are hitting free agency that year.
double
Who are the relievers in that free agent class? The Phillies will have 0 reliable bullpen arms if they trade Giles. So they’ll have to sign a lot of free agent relievers.
jleve618
I’d hate to see him go so early, unless he brings back the goods in return. Adding Jake Diekman to the Hamels deal hurt enough.