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Mike Query
I mean I get that the Phillies have the top pick and all, but a rule 5 article that strictly talks about the Phillies seems odd. Teams like Braves and Reds have plenty of open roster spots they could try these guys out in, among plenty of others
seamaholic 2
My thoughts exactly. Not to make a capital case out of it — I don’t really care — but this is one of the oddest articles I’ve ever seen on MLBTR.
Mike Query
Yeah like you said not a huge deal, but I found it rather odd as well, glad Im not alone haha.
amishthunderak
***Troll warning**If I had a free website I’d definitely take the time to profile every player and every teams needs in the Rule 5, especially considering over the last 4 years a total of 50 players were drafted (like good internet trolls, my source for that info is Wikipedia).
GoRav114
I really like fuenmayor for the Orioles and I dont think him being on the dl is a big deal other than not being able to give him a full spring. He can rehab just enough games to still qualify as keeping him. I just don’t know he will still be available by their pick.
johnsilver
Orioles have a successful history of selecting in this draft also.SP Miquel Gonzlez they took from Boston several years ago and has given them a few years as a serviceable starter. Fireballing reliever Jason Garcia they took last year and was kind of a project, who throws upper 90’s and has touched 100. Both were taken from Boston, right after having TJ.
Wouldn’t put it past Duquette to go shopping in this draft again.
FOmeOLS
Garcia is awful. In the AFL he had 15 walks in 15 innings or something like that. He is going to live the rest of his life at AA.
Brixton
My initial thought was for the Phillies to pick up a reliever.
The OF already has Altherr and Herrera as the starting RF-CF combo. You have Asche and Sweeney as the LF/4th outfield combination, plus Quinn and Williams ready for mid-season. All of those players are in their lower 20’s.
Imagine if the Phillies kept Inciarte. They’d have picked up Herrera, Inciarte and Victorino from the rule 5 draft. But they gave up on Inciarte before he even played a game…. for Delmon Young.
Also, calling Michael Martinez ‘successful’ is a bit of a stretch.
Bill 21
Phillies need to pick a player that can make the team, play regularly, even if it’s mid-game switch, have a decently high ceiling, become part of the rebuild or develop as assets with tradable value.
It does little good to select a player at a position of need at #1 pick with a high bust potential, and limited ceiling. So, I agree with the author, here. Tyler Goeddel seems the safest choice, and Blash also a possibility. They could pick a pitcher or even 2 in subsequent rounds.
Matt Galvin
Asche can also play 3B. Could always Trade somebody for a LF. The Royals could try him in LF.
dhud
I would love to see the Goeddel in the Reds system. He seems to have the skill set to fill a definite need. The problem is, however, my understanding of the rule 5 draft is he would have to stay on the Reds 25 man roster all season. He is probably not ready nor will there be a roster spot for him to simply hold without contribution
tim815
If he figures to be a “good enough” player in the future, take him. The last guy on the bench won’t make *that* much difference that often. This is also a reason that the AL gets a benefit from using the DH. The DH buries a hitter on a bench that won’t ever get used. (Quite often, AL games go extra innings, and fewer than two bench hitters get used by a team. Rebuilding AL squads can take a Rule 5 guy every year, and face almost no retribution.)
If he fails to impress the pro scouting department for the long-term, then pass.
mrkinsm
There should be more than one roster spot on the Reds 25 man this year worth “holding”. They’ll be lucky to win 70 games this year, prime time to take the gamble.
bbgods
It should say 18 and under.
Phillies2017
I want the Phillies to take Dwight Smith Jr or Teoscar Hernandez, and then trade for another pick and take Dietrich Enns. Enns had a 0.62 ERA in A Advanced. JJ Cooper didn’t think he could make the jump from A Advanced to the bigs, but he’s already 25 and a 0.62 ERA HAS to translate to something–especially when there are no control issues to speak of.
I like Fuenmayor, but my problem is the injury. He may be out just long enough to force a full season next season, so that’s 2 years of development just gone. I like Goeddel a ton–he’s exceptionally polished and I wouldn’t mind taking him.
mrkinsm
Enns was 2-3 years older than most of his competition.
3Tavgreg
If he’s 25 with a .62 ERA and no control issues, why is he still in high A ball.
Phillies2017
Because hes burried in the depth chart by a ton of lefty starters.
Phillies2017
My bad–Enns wont be 25 until May.
Phillies2017
I did an analysis and this is my list
1. Smith Jr
2. Teoscar Hernandez
3. Dietrich Enns
4. Tyler Goeddel
5. Devenski
bravesmadduxfan
In all seriousness, regarding Blash, how is it possible to have a BABIP lower than actual BA?
coolwinnebago
Homers don’t count in babip, they aren’t “in play”. They do count towards your average.
Bill 21
Home Runs do not count in babip.
Donnie B
Just a little fun here – But Steamer 600 Projections (based on 600 PA’s) has Jabari Blash stats (if he played in the majors this year) as follows:
600 PA / 536 AB / 68 R / 118 H / 25 HR / 71 RBI / 8 SB / .220 AVG with a 1.3 WAR
Tyler Goeddel stats:
600 PA / 551 AB / 58 R / 129 H / 11 HR / 56 RBI / 21 SB / .233 AVG w/ a 0.6 WAR
Frankly – I’d be very happy with Blash’s numbers as a Rule 5 pick.
Steamer also always projects a much lower BA than what a player usually does.
1) R. Sweeney – 543 AB / 55 R / 125 H / 11 HR / 53 RBI / 22 SB / .231 AVG
2) O. Herrera – 552 AB / 57 R / 147 H / 8 HR / 50 RBI / 16 SB / .266 AVG
3) A. Altherr – 545 AB / 61 R / 130 H / 15 HR / 61 RBI / 14 SB / .239 AVG
4) M. Franco – 556 AB / 68 R / 151 H / 24 HR / 79 RBI / 3 SB / .272 AVG
5) Howard / Ruf – 464 AB / 61 R / 130 H / 28 HR / 89 RBI / 0 SB / .280 AVG
6) J. Blash – 536 AB / 68 R / 118 H / 25 HR / 71 RBI / 8 SB / .220 AVG
7) F. Galvis – 556 AB / 54 R / 137 H / 11 HR / 54 RBI / 7 SB / .246 AVG
8) C. Rupp – 407 AB / 38 R / 90 H / 12 HR / 44 RBI / 2 SB / .222 AVG
Rupp’s stats based on 450 PA’s
Howard/Ruf stats based on 2015’s split stats (Howard vs RHP – Ruf vs LHP)
FOmeOLS
How can a team pick more than once?
Would it be a direct pick, or would they arrange for another team to pick and then trade?
FOmeOLS
Not every team makes a pick. So, how many teams are picking and what’s the order?
redsfanman
Teams pick in an order based on the reverse standings, like they do in the regular draft. As far as how many teams will make a selection, we won’t know that for sure until the day of the draft. As far as your other question above, teams can make more than one selection after circling through and giving each team an opportunity. Players can be selected and then traded – that’s how the Reds got Josh Hamilton years ago.