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batman
I wonder what a deal to send Melancon back to Boston would look like
tndyank
Maybe an infielder more specifically a first baseman
batman
Seems a little light, no? Plus i doubt the Pirates will be looking into a 1B too much, especially with having to pay Morse at least 5 mil (unless someone takes him off their hands) and with Bell so close
ianthomasmalone
Light? Melancon is an expensive, albeit good, reliever on a one year deal. He’ll fetch a nice piece, but he’s not going to bring back a big haul. Anyone looking to give up big prospects for a reliever on a one year deal will focus their efforts on Chapman.
batman
Hanrahan brought back a pretty nice return. And im not saying theyll get someones top 5 prospect, but something closer to that Hanrahan deal doesnt seem completely out of the question.
ianthomasmalone
Hanrahan was also packaged with Brock Holt so that’s hard to compare.
futureGM
Pirates need some starting pitching to fill the gap of Burnett and more than likely Locke, so a swap of Melancon for a starting pitcher coupe be a possibility.
Stonehands
Melancon for Brian Johnson?
dirtywater433
No just no. The Sox already had Melancon once and it failed miserably. No.
MeowMeow
Not saying we should do that deal, but I always thought the Sox gave up on Melancon too quickly when he got hurt.
johnsilver
Salty is a perfect Duquette type rehab candidate he targets and wouldn’t shock me one bit for him to sign him on a split type MiLB/MLB contract and for Salty to have another of his miracle comebacks, like he did after Boston rescue him from Texas. Might just last for 1-2 seasons again, but Camden yards fits his power well, just like Fenway did.
would be nice to see and O’s are going to be needing a catcher this year.
ln13
They have Joseph and Clevenger.
Connorsoxfan
Right! So they need a catcher 🙂
Steve_in_MA
BoSox should target the Mets, who have 4 desirable pitchers, and blow Alderson away with an offer for Syndergaard. Sandy is pragmatic enough to know that he can’t hold on to all 4 guys for very long, because the organization has needs in other areas and the money for pitching is ultimately limited. No team can afford to carry 4 aces. Yes, they could be carried for one more season, but then again, the opportunity to score 2 or 3 BA top 50 prospects is happening now. It may not be there ever again.
dirtywater433
The Mets probably will want to build that team with their strong pitching. I don’t see them trading anyone in that rotation outside of Zach Wheeler. He is probably the one to get dealt and if I’m the Sox, I would be all over Wheeler.
Rally Weimaraner
Any team can afford to carry 1 first year arbitration eligible ace and 3 per-arbitration eligible aces.
rct
“No team can afford to carry 4 aces. . .Yes, they could be carried for one more season”
They’re all at different stages, however. None of them hit free agency for three more seasons, and three of them don’t even hit Arb until 2018. The Mets could easily carry deGrom, Harvey, Syndergaard, Matz, and Wheeler for the next three years, not one.
Steve_in_MA
They are not presently 4 aces. Maybe 2 or 3 are, but not Matz or Wheeler. Matz might become capable of being an ace, if he can continue having outrageous success, despite his lack of velocity. You assume they are all aces to try and conjure up some inconsistency with what I said, but there is none there. I never said the Mets have 4 aces. They have 4 desirables.
The opportunity to trade one of them for a boatload of young, controllable talent is limited. They could have a bad year, they could get hurt, there could be no takers down the road. The bird in hand …
rct
I never called them ‘aces’, you did. And you clearly did. You wrote ‘No team can afford to carry 4 aces’ in reference to these four pitchers.
But regardless, you’re still wrong because they can absolutely carry all four of them (five, counting Wheeler) for at least the next three years. The ‘opportunity to trade one of them’ is not ‘limited’. Most of them aren’t free agents for five more years, and if they continue to pitch great, even with only one or two arb years remaining, they’d still be a valuable commodity.
But further, this sentence: “You assume they are all aces to try and conjure up some inconsistency” makes it pretty clear that you read something in my post that wasn’t there. I honestly don’t know where you got that from.
dirtywater433
The yankees are dumb. Let them trade another draft pick for a mediocre mid rotation starter when you’re trying to get younger and acquire more prospects. That makes about as much sense as rather paying a extra 5 million dollars to get Stephen Drew over Yoan Moncada. I’m glad to be a Sox fan these days.
And ohh by the way, say no to Melancon again. Been there done that.
Rally Weimaraner
Moncada cost a lot more than Drew.
dirtywater433
The yankees bid 25 million and the Sox paid 31.5 million. Sure there was the 100% penalty but are we talking about the new york yankees here or are we talking about the Mets?
Rally Weimaraner
So that was about 13 MM more…
dirtywater433
No it was about 6.5 million more plus the penalty. Still this is the yankees. Money shouldn’t be a issue. Either way, I’m glad the Sox have him and they’re not so dumb to let him go by for just money.
MeowMeow
6.5 plus an extra 100% of 6.5 is 13….
vmmercan 2
I too make fun of teams for things they didn’t do yet using statistics that don’t actually exist.
ronnsnow
Melancon for Travis Shaw and Robby Ross Jr.