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HibbardsHustler
Would love to see both Eddie and Jose back to finish their careers, hopefully they know they will big have to take a cut if they both want to stay. It would be good to see Chen in the rotation, trade dicky for some prospects and get rid of Thole. We shall see.
stormie
The Jays’ rotation may not be overly strong, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have a surplus of arms. I don’t think moving R.A is only viable if they add another FA arm (which would just further glut their rotation long-term), Stroman, Estrada, Happ, one of Sanchez/Osuna and one of Hutchison/Chavez would be a decent enough rotation with that Blue Jays offense to back them. If they can get a prospect for R.A and then add another back-end piece for the bullpen with the money saved, that’s not a bad idea.
go_jays_go
While I appreciate Dickey’s ability to go 200+ inning a year while providing a league average ERA (which is actually quite valuable), I’m also a bit afraid that he’s about to ‘lose it’ at any moment now.
Yes he is a knuckleballer, but I can help but to notice that he’s 41 yrs-old.
If the Blue Jays played in Safeco field, O.Co Coliseum, or Petco Park, my opinion of things would be different, but it’s the Roger’s Centre. And his HR rates have been pretty bad as of late too.
Furthermore, it will likely force the Blue Jays to move Thole, which helps open up another roster spot.
Swap him now, while he still has some trade value; that’s the way I see things.
JT19
Considering Dickey is at best a 4/5 pitcher, I don’t see any team giving up any significant prospect back (maybe a prospect in the 20-30 range, or maybe multiple prospects outside of the top 30).
go_jays_go
@ JT19
So 200+ inning at a league average ERA makes you a 4/5 pitcher at best?
Lol what?
At the very least, Dickey is a passable #3 for a playoff team, or a very strong #3 for a non-playoff team.
As a pitcher Dickey is perfectly fine. The problem is that he needs a specialized catcher, which takes up the extra roster spot.
DAKINS
200 innings is a lot to hand over to unproven arms. I wouldn’t feel comfortable if they did that.
Philliesfan4life
A shame about Dylan Bundy
jawscwh2000
Bundy got Talent to be 1 one starter hope can break thru his injures and be that guy we saw three years 20 inns stuck out I think 12 of batters he face orioles needs sumbody to stand up be that 1 starter
mstrchef13
If the O’s sign Davis, they may not sign Gallardo due to draft pick compensation. Losing the 14th overall may not be all that palatable. But if Davis leaves, signing Upton and diving up the 14th pick and getting a mid-30s pick back would be easier to do, which means they would be giving up a 2nd rounder to sign Gallardo, also easier. It may make sense for the O’s brass to tell Boras that he has until January 15 (or some other arbitrary date in the next week or so) to sign or they will move on and BE FIRM ABOUT IT.
NL_East_Rivalry
From what I gather with the new system, if you gain picks from outgoing players, those picks will be in line to be forfeited, unlike before so in the end, if they sign Gallardo they will keep their second round pick but lose one of their comp picks
CCS34
I would like to see the Jays sign Davis and let Encarnacion walk next offseason
dane1990
I love Crush Davis, but Baltimore needs pitching. Yes he hits for amazing power and produces runs, but they have good options in house to play first. I’m betting on a rebound with Trumbo as I’m thinking BAL is too. If we learned anything from last season, pitching wins you ball games. KC is the greatest example of that. NYY are catching onto it as well as they have basically made games 6 inning games now having Chapman, Miller, and Betances. BAL offense is good having Jones, Machado, Trumbo, Wieters, and a more experience Schoop. Add Gallardo and Bastardo and trade Matusz to acquire a good outfielder to solidify the outfield.
waitingsince1983
very well said… they sure don’t make it easy for Buck.. but he seems to find a way..I think
O’s will somehow make the post season in 2016 , With Davis there is a better chance..
greatd
I personally don’t understand why the Orioles are spending money when they have close to zero chance of contending. They have no rotation as in no one’s good. They don’t have much of a line up besides Jones / Machado and Davis who might leave. It’s not like they’re boat loaded with prospects that can help at the MLB level either. Why not call it a day and start rebuilding? Buc does a great job running the team but the front office just seems like a wreak. Rebuild the farm that ranks close to last in all farm rankings and start over. They’re the ones who needed to sign Alex Anthopoulos.
Mitch Augustyn
Orioles are one of two teams to have winning records in AL Easta and pounded tgeYankees and Jays last week of the season. Orioele team era was about same as Yankees and Orioles pen was much better. Red Soxpicked up David Price and lost a good solid starter in Miley. Yankees best hree player are their oldest. The team with best recor1d in AL East since 2012 is the Orioles. Toronto won because of Price last year and lost Buehrle and replaced him with JA Happ. Whether Chris Davis realizes he has to swalow his pride like Arod did in 2007 and come back to Baltimore. If not Cespedes will be in Baltimore. Not a weak bat in thatlineup..Schoop hit 15 hrs in 300 at bats. Wieters gets a full season and Chris tillman will rebound. There is no clear leader in AL East.
JT19
1) The addition of David Price far outweighs whatever they might have lost in Miley (who they picked up a solid reliever for in return).
2) Who do you consider the Yankees three best players that they are the oldest? Imo the Yankees three best players could arguably be Chapman, Miller, Betances. Chapman is definetly up there, I would have to put Miller up there too and I could see an argument being made for another player (Tex, Tanaka maybe) in place of Betances.
3)A-Rod didn’t swallow his pride. Swallowing his pride would’ve been to not opt-out or sign for cheaper, but instead signed for another long, expensive contract. If that’s what you consider swallowing his pride, I’m sure Davis will have no problem doing so.
I agree there is no clear leader, but the Orioles have arguably the weakest team on paper (for what its worth) without Chris Davis. With Davis that lineup becomes a better (probably up there with the Jays as being the best on paper) and the rotation is still uninspiring. While their pen does look good, I would only rate their pen as being the fourth best (on paper) in the division (in no particular order the Sox, Yankees and Rays, if they keep McGee, would be ahead). This team has an aging core that, outside of Machado and maybe Britton, could easily regress. They also have fee prospects to replenish the system so they are looking at a Phillies style rebuild. They should at least try to make the playoffs this year, but if they don’t they should just tear it all down.
DAKINS
Pounded the Jays farm team the last week of the season you meant to say.. They sat all the regulars after taking the first game in Baltimore to clinch the division.
zperrin171
Mitch August your comment is an insult to people who think. Baltimore’s rotation is dead last in the AL east and that lineup w/o machado is not very good. Jones isn’t getting any younger and weiters had a very poor last 2 seasons. The farm system also has next to nothing in it… And as for comparison to NYY’s bullpen, their pen on paper could be one of the greatest ever. Come on man!