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Bob Smiley
i remember when he had that 1 good year.
willm
2008-2013 is a long year
kingfelix34
That 1 year
timyanks
14-12, that’s good?
Monkey’s Uncle
Yeah, he had 6 pretty solid seasons in a row, especially considering he pitched home games as a lefty in Minute Maid. I’ve never really understood the criticism some people throw at Wandy. He was never a star, but until he got hurt in 2013 with the Bucs he was pretty consistently solid and dependable as a #3 or #4 starter. He might not have anything left, but I’m a Pirate fan, which is where he was when things started to go south, and I don’t wish ill on the guy.
timyanks
have you looked at his stats? or are you going by memory. out of years with 10 or more wins, he was over .501 winning percentage once, 14-12. the rest, .500 or less.
rob361
Welll… He did play on some of the Astros bad teams…sooo..
Monkey’s Uncle
I am certainly not going by winning percentage. With all due respect, a won-loss record is one of the worst ways to evaluate a pitcher statistically. If that is your primary basis for disliking Wandy, well… I don’t quite know how to respond to that. Nolan Ryan once led the league in ERA while going 8-16. Sometimes good, even great, pitchers pitch for bad teams.
I was going by a combination of memory, having frequently seen him pitch, and having looked over his stats multiple times previously. Now as I look at his stats again, I see 5 consecutive years of over 30 starts with an ERA of under 4 and a WHIP of under 1.32, and he was on the same pace in 2013 before being hurt. I would politely challenge you to come up with a list of other starting pitchers who had those same qualifying stats over the same span of years: it’s not going to be a very long list.
I am not big on the newer, more complex stats, but I cannot imagine you could find too many people who are going to agree with you if you base your argument solely on wins and losses. I never said he was a great pitcher, but he was solid on some very bad teams.
timyanks
i liked wandy, but you’re overrating him during those so called good years.
Monkey’s Uncle
OK. Maybe I am. Perhaps we have different definitions of “solid” and “dependable”, which is what I referred to him as during that era in my first post. I’m not really debating whether or not he was good or not, which is a matter of opinion anyone is entitled to. I’m more responding to using only wins and losses to make your analysis of him. I also meant to add (but forgot to) that one of Wandys weaknesses was being mostly a 6 or 7 inning starter, which also meant that he lost both wins and losses to his bullpen. In any case, we can agree to disagree.
aknott1
No, I think you’re right on, connfyoozed. He was solid for a number of years. I don’t see how anyone can use wins and losses as their whole argument on how good a pitcher is.
mlpetrov
Agreed, wandy has had several solid seasons and could be a #4-5 starter. He won’t make the 1 mil base salary unless he is on the major league club. So it’s a very low risk move, decent reward move. He won’t be a superstar but could contribute and help the Astros if he does make it with the club. Plus he provides depth for the team.
Cstevenson96
love to see ole Wandy back in houston!!!
clutchmcutch786
World series bound!!!!!!!!
Backatitagain
Think about an Aaron Hicks bad contract swap for Nick Swisher or Michael Bourn.
jonscriff
what
mlpetrov
1 year of swisher, or 2 if he has 550 PA (hasn’t since 2013) for 15 mil a year or hicks for 550k and 4 years of control and put together a decent season last year. Hmmmmmm someone is clearly a braves fan. No one would ever make that trade.
klanem
Why,why,why would you spend a dime even for a minor league contract on a washed up hack
Cstevenson96
he could end up thriving in Houston again that’s why
stroh
As an Astros fan, I like the move. He looked really good with the Rangers last year until the latter part of the season – not sure if he got hurt or what happened. He had some solid years with a really bad Astros team. He may have enough in the tank to be a long reliever or simply another option for 5th starter if Scott Feldman or Brad Peacock fail. As it is Astros rotation of Keuchel, McHugh, McCullers and Fiers are probably set and if Feldman is healthy he will get the 5th spot. Peacock is also coming off surgery so I think this was just insurance. My guess is that he may pitch down in Fresno until/unless they need him.