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cxcx
I find it weird that Gallardo, Fowler, and Desmond signing while they are still tied to draft pick compensation is treated as a given when just two years ago both Kendrys Morales and Stephen Drew had to wait to it to expire.
Also, it would have been worth noting that San Diego’s draft allotment was deflated last year by their sacrificing one of the top unprotected picks to sign James Shields.
mohoney
Gallardo is probably going to the Orioles, but you’re absolutely right about the other two. Desmond has seen declines of between 40 and 60 points of OPS each year for the past four years. Fowler put up career lows in AVG and OBP last year. Both players are uninspiring defensively. Both players are on the wrong side of 30. If I were trading for either player, I certainly wouldn’t be offering a top-five prospect from my farm system as the centerpiece to the deal, and in a deep draft like this one, forfeiting a pick in the first round or a sandwich pick before the second round would be forfeiting a comparable talent.
EndinStealth72
Agreed. I also wouldn’t sign Gallardo if I was the Orioles management. He could easily implode in Camden Yards. I’d be willing to go as far as saying he WILL have a horrid year in that hitter friendly park. It looks like it’s going to happen but I don’t think it’s good for either side. Gallardo should take a pillow contract on an NL team. Then go back at FA next year with a weaker FA class and maybe no QO tied to him.
Lance
Gallardo had a 3.42 ERA last year pitching for the Rangers in a ballpark that has historically been tough on pitchers. Baltimore needs a solid starter NOW….Gallardo turns 30 in a week and he’s had seven consecutive seasons of 30+ starts. No draft pick is going to help them for at least 2-3 years….if ever.
mikeyst13
And he has a career 3.62 ERA pitching mostly in the hitter friendly parks of the NL Central including pitching at home in the launching pad of Miller Park, a much more hitter friendly park than Camden.
EndinStealth72
Statistically Camden comes out as a more hitter friendly park than all but three stadiums. Those being Coors Field, Wrigley and Toronto.
cxcx
I was mostly just pointing out that guys not getting signed happens, not so much that I don’t think these guys ought to get signed. I do sort of think with Desmond with how sharply he’s been declining, but the other guys I would want.
But something no one else is talking enough about is teams bidding against themselves. That’s what seems to be going on with the Orioles and Gallardo if the reports are accurate. When I said before that I’d want Gallardo, I didn’t mean at the 3/45 the Orioles are randomly throwing at him, much like the contract they handed Ubaldo under similar circumstances.
It’s late in free agency, you’ve waited this long, other teams are mostly done with significant signings, and yet you’re still trying to pay inflated prices? They should offer him something like 8, 12, (13), (14), with the final two years being team options. He can provide good value on a deal like that. Offer it to him and wait. If he accepts, great. If not, then good on you for not giving him a bad contract. Something similar for Fowler, too.
Lance
I think cxcx pretty much has this nailed down pretty well. 2 + 1 sounds like a pretty reasonable offer for a guy who obviously doesn’t have a lot of interest right now. I think Gallardo is a decent 3-4 starter and a guy of value for Baltimore. Apparently the O’s think he’s worth talking to and Yvonni may have some difficult decisions to make regarding his future. Maybe his agent just misjudged the market.
EndinStealth72
That stuff is very interesting. Good job making it at least somewhat understandable.
Strauss
White Sox are in a great position monetarily, however, their scouting and development staffs are two of the worst in baseball. The organization has really fallen.
cstevenson91
I think you have to consider how bad of seasons they guys who waited until the draft pick compensation rule wore off. Being off a half year in baseball is bad for that player and can hurt the team that signs them.
cstevenson91
It’s worth noting that the guys who waited in the past to sign after the draft pick rule wore off had horrible years. Taking a half year off in baseball is bad for player and team.
eilexx
The only player who waited until after the draft to sign was Morales; Drew simply resigned with the Red Sox for the prorated value of the QO.