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jakegreenberg24
He will likely come after next offseason because he surely won’t have get as much in the free agent class of Harper (Machado, Kershaw, Waino, Fernandez, Harvey, etc).
Gogerty
Harper won’t be a FA until after 2018 season.
sdsuphilip
Has
sdsuphilip
has nothing to do with that, the post fees I believe are limited for a bit at 20 million, I’m not exactly sure on specifics but it doesn’t make sense financially for the team to post him right now.
bravesfan 7
Attention everyone, Kevin Maitan is a Brave
That is all
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Haha lazzarito might be also
bravesfan 7
mobile.twitter.com/MaitanKevin/status/698363782331…
TJECK109
I had to read the Lee portion twice. Thought the Orioles signed Cliff
wilymo
i wouldn’t say lee was *particularly* young for AA, 22 is about right.
the idea with him is that when the orioles got him they changed his mechanics to help him use his legs more, and he gained velocity as the year went on. the real hype on him is scouting reports out of instructional league after the season ended, where apparently he was throwing even harder than late in the year with improved secondary pitches.
so if any of that is true, his numbers from last year don’t mean a lot & at this point we’re just waiting for him to go out and start pitching this year and see if any of this is real or just talk.
it’d be weird since the orioles aren’t exactly regarded as a pitching instruction powerhouse after the way things went for them with arrieta &c. but, everybody’s different.
sdsuphilip
The Otani comments on him potentially being an all star caliber hitter or pitcher is weird. While he may have a good chance to have extra value as an above average hitter for a pitcher, he has hit 245/300/429 over his career. Yes he was young for league but there is little to suggest this is some kind of great hitter, merely a good hitter for a pitcher.
wilymo
yeah, i mean… i can imagine that he has some sort of untapped upside as a hitter, to a scouting eye, were he to commit to it full-time, but… the idea that the decision is some kind of coin toss is loony. he might be one of the ten best pitchers on the planet right now. he is going to continue to be a pitcher, whatever else happens
rivera42
Agreed. To be honest, for that scout to have said that he’s going to have to choose between pitching(bonafide stud) and hitting(very good for a pitcher but probably below average compared to other hitters), I’m thinking that he needs a psychological evaluation.
brewcrewenthusiast
Guys. Otani plays for the ham fighters. THE HAM FIGHTERS. Why do we not have team names like that?
stl_cards16 2
Nippon-Ham, the company is where the name originates from. They’re the Fighters.
sdsuphilip
Problem with not trading Shields now is if he has a strong half year he could opt out of what is going to be a weak free agent class, he isn’t going to get paid huge money at his age, but could an extra year or two added onto his deal.
Padres obviously aren’t going to compete this year and there is no one left worth saving money they’d hypothetically save by trading shields anyways so I’m fine going into this year with him for that. I do think a bounceback is a strong possibility, while his 4 win days are very likely done, it’s highly unlikely his homerun rate of last year is going to stay the same or get worse this year.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
How would Shields having a strong first half be a bad thing for the Padres?
His home run rate should go down next year.
sdsuphilip
It’s definitely not horrible, he’d get padres more than they could right now for sure, but he could then be viewed more as a rental than anything for non dodgers/angels teams. He and his family loves it in socal and would probably opt out with a strong bounceback if he were traded elsewhere.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
I don’t think Big Shame James is gonna opt out but I seem to be alone in that opinion.
I don’t see why other teams didn’t just sign him a year ago if they want to trade for him now.
bleacherbum
Yeah how is him having a good first half bad for the Padres? It would actually be a win/win if that happened because if he and others had a strong first half we could compete which is good for the organization, and if he has a strong first half but the team stinks then you trade him for maximum value at the deadline. Padres get his salary off the books, bring in a couple prospects and Shields gets to play in a playoff race, all parties win? Right?
SixFlagsMagicPadres
I also fine with the idea of him having a good bounce back year. I wonder what they could get for him at the deadline if he does end up finding a groove and cutting down on the long ball.
bkbkbk
Otani is basically Sidd Finch.
reignaado
Naw dude, Otani is basically Goro Shigeno… only right-handed.
charles stevens
What exactly is the purpose of ranking managers? Teams change managers all of the time because they need a new voice or a new approach that fits their roster. The whole thing is completely ridiculous. How about rank them on the scale of what have you done for me lately? Which by the way is all that matters in 2016.
YourDaddy
Only one way Shields or any other Padres pitcher improves in 2016. That is if the defense suddenly gets better, it won’t, and if Norris is traded or catches MUCH less, he won’t.
disgruntledreader 2
The Padres will open 2016 with significantly better defense at 2 of 3 outfield spots and at SS. They’ll likely have marginally better defense at 2B as well. And Norris will likely catch 20 fewer games than he did last year.
mcencinitas
Norris didn’t make them miss their spots. There were many times the FSSD broadcasters tried to explain the home run problem. They showed clip after clip of Norris setting up outside and the pitcher missing inside, or missing high.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
Well the defense should get better, so we’ll have to see how that plays out.
GeauxRangers
I thought this said Cliff Lee was throwing 97 MPH for a second. I was very confused.