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Niekro
Not to take any thing away from Snell but the IL was very much a pitchers league last year maybe pitching across the board was up but Banuelos also was fairly dominant in it and not so much at the MLB level.
go_jays_go
Banuelos didn’t have the same dominant peripherals as Snell.
And for what it’s worth, Banuelo’s ERA was in the 2.50 range whereas Snell’s ERA was below 2.00
Niekro
Dominant peripherals like Tommy Milone? Trust me it was a pitchers league.
go_jays_go
True true. I didn’t keep tabs on Milone.
But if Blake Snell is willing to sign a contract extension (something similar to Matt Moore’s extension, that is 5yr/$14m + 3 club options), then it’s still worthwhile for the Rays to explore it.
go_jays_go
“While those deals were finalized when Andrew Friedman was the club’s general manager (Friedman is now with the Dodgers), present-day GM Matt Silverman was club president for all of those extensions.”
A bit of a technicality, but there’s an error in the wording.
The Rays don’t use the ‘General Manager’ term.
Instead they have a ‘Director of Baseball Operations’ and ‘(Vice) President of Baseball Operations’
Dutch
I have to believe if he was a Cuban player he would receive well over 10 million from being available on an open market. And, that would be without him stepping foot on MLB soil.
Just saying a 5 year 10 million dollar deal for what he’s shown would be jumped on by many clubs.
It also seems to me that he could go the Andrew Heaney route and look to “sell” himself for guaranteed money and give up a small percentage of future career earning.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
I don’t think that’s true because he technically he wouldn’t hit the international comp mark. He’s only at 4 years service time so he might only be eligible for a minor league contract with a range of a bonus. I could be wrong though.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Scratch that you’re right he is at 5 years. 5*10 wouldn’t work unless he gives the Rays an option or two to buy out 1-2 years of free agency. They’ll keep him down until super two date. So he’ll cost less than 2 mill for 3 years. That’s all risk for Rays. Now maybe a 7 year 50-60 makes sense for both.
Dutch
Yes. But I have to think if he was international he would have had six years service time and he is already 23 years old.
My thoughts are just of interest on how teams value potential through prime years as opposed to past record of proven competence. Seems like with teams so fearful of signing players attached to QOs a player like snell would have great value
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Oh yeah he has major value although on this aspect he controllable without risk. So a new contract at this point provides the Rays no risk or reward. I think it will be interesting though to see what Cuba does because assuming politically they clean it up are we going to see a posting system like in Japan and KBO. I can’t see those 3 countries/ leagues agreeing to be a part of the draft and destroying their leagues
Ray Ray
Didn’t anyone learn anything from the Jon Singleton debacle? You don’t extend a player before he proves he belongs in the big leagues. Let him at least get his feet wet and then extend. You might have to pay a little more, but it probably wouldn’t be a completely sunk cost either.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
But the Rays did the same thing with Longoria so I guess it’s all dependent on their scouts. Plus that’s in all reality is pennies. Moore’s extension was what 15 mill. I think certain instances they can afford to make those deals and kind of have to.
therealryan
The Rays signed Longoria and Moore before they proved they belong in the big leagues. Unfortunately, it’s a risk that low revenue teams like the Rays have to take if they want any chance at keeping a superstar long term.