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paulkauffmann
The Mets shut down Harvey the year after his surgery also he was used a year and a half following Tj surgery
stl_cards16 2
It was made pretty clear Strasburg wanted to get a deal done with the Nationals. If Harvey is the same with the Mets, Bora’s will make it happen. Everyone likes to make him out to he the bad guy, but he does as his client wishes.
jkim319
Yes he does what his client wishes, but with a LOT of advice on ‘what the player and his family should consider.’ There is no doubting that the perception is that a smaller % of boras clients choose extensions vs choose free agency.
*** If someone has actual #’s of ‘free agency eligible’ clients and those who chose ‘extensions’ … And see the data of boras vs other baseball sports agents over past 3-5 years, it would be great to see.
What I don’t know is the extremely high mix of ‘stars’ that boras represents and how this affects our ‘perception’ that Boras’ clients choose free agency at a higher rate)
jkim319
Actually the evaluation is trickier, it would have to include players who got bought out of arb years … (Heck somebody give names of Boras clients who signed multi year contracts with 1 years of arbitration left)
johnsilver
Sometimes the player can and will dicate signing after reaching with the original team for less years and salary. See Varitek 1st time after hitting FA.
Players can force him to do their wishes of course, tho reason players choose him is mainly to extract last dime. Varitek had him as adviser out of HIS and college, can see that and had him still at the end.
Others who have maintained wishes to stay put have agreed, Strasburg of course.. Weaver in Anaheim.
Bogaerts in Boston has stressed numerous times his strong desire to remain in Boston. Think might have gotten done sooner with Cherrington, tho believe it will still get done in a year or 2.
morebreakdowns
having watched the mets all year i can tell you cabrera has been an average to above average defender all year and has made some clutch plays in the field. just shows how unreliable d-metrics are
pd14athletics
Got it. Throwing defensive metrics out the window as I hit “Publish”.
seth3120
I like a guy and any statics pointing another direction are absurd. Sabermetrics are useless there have been a lot of guys I’ve been high on that sabermetrics haven’t been kind too. Flawed
start_wearing_purple
Sabermetrics tend to be useless when they don’t prove someone’s point and tend to be be great when they do. It’s just another example of how stats can be cherry picked.
theo2016
He has a penchant to make plays look more difficult or aestically pleasing than need be. Players like this tend to get overrated by the eye test.
LongTimeFan1
He has penchant for making plays. The eyeball test does just fine as witness.
He’s smart player with excellent instincts and know-how which offsets a lack of upper echelon tools. If you’ve seen enough baseball and know what to look for, the eyeball test works rather well and bodes understanding of the game on the field, real time, real life, played by real people, rather than paper. and data streams. .
theo2016
I can assure you I have played baseball at a higher level than you but thanks for telling me what it’s about, I’m sure your little league coach is proud. Anyway, he lacks range therefore making routine grounders look tougher than need be, other balls that would be outs he doesn’t get to all together.
cubsfan2489
Don’t think pony ball is considered a “higher level”
Brixton
And some of those clutch diving plays that he made, a normal shortstop wouldnt need to dive for. His range isnt good. There are guys who make great plays but the range just isnt there. Look at Jeter
staypuft
I don’t think he’s talking about “clutch diving plays.” It’s more about the “clutch plays,” like throwing out the go-ahead runner at 3rd in the 9th yesterday. He makes smart decisions. You can’t really qualify that.
morebreakdowns
You all forget i never said he was a gold glove defender, just that the d metrics make him out to be terrible. Also Bill James has said the d metrics are unreliable and that you have to actually see a player play to get a full grasp of what he is capable of, but i have noticed the sabrmetrics community has turned their backs on him the last few years. Metrics people blindly follow any statistic put in front of them without questioning any of it. a large portion of these people have stopped watching games and have resulted to looking at statistics at a screen. Not saying stats are meaningless but it is a mathematic representation of something that isnt entirely mathematic
LongTimeFan1
To Mark Polishuk:
Asdrubal Cabrera is the 2016 starter – is not fill in for Flores.
Flores started a lot last season and just wasn’t good enough. Cabrera is definite upgrade.
Flores is utility player this season and recently went on DL
What You Wrote Is Wrong.
“Cabrera is hitting .278/.333/.373 through 171 plate appearances and despite some subpar defensive metrics, he’s been a valuable fill-in at shortstop with Wilmer Flores injured.”
hojostache
The Harvey situation is different because it is (now) well known that Strausburg wanted to stay in WAS because it was comfortable and he felt a connection w. the club. MLBTR posted an article about it awhile back.
Wrapping up Syn should be the Met’s top priority (in regard to re-signing their arms), though if Harvey wants to do a team friendly deal like Strausburg…I’m sure the front office would listen.