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GreenCustom24
I’ll probably get torn apart for this, bit anyone wise think Atlanta and Seattle could match up nicely on a Markakis for Aoki deal?
Braves eat half or more of Markakis’ 2017 contract and get to drop Aoki at year’s end. Seattle gets a good outfielder who’s a line drive hitting on base machine whose power is returning. Releases the log jam for Atlanta in 2017, gives Seattle an outfield boost they apparently need.
Gogerty
No reason to think you would get torn apart on that one. From a Braves fan standpoint, would just be hard to pay half a contract on a good player. Granted I asked the question above on the OF situation, but as it stands, we are not sure what Mallex Smith can be. He got a taste and got injured, no telling how productive he can or will be.
But of course, we took on Bourn and Swisher to rid ourselves of Chris Johnson’s last year. Never know.
GreenCustom24
To be fair, Mallex was playing quite well in the month or so before getting hit on the hand by a pitch. I think he was finally getting the hang of it all. Honestly, his speed and defense will take him very far in my opinion. I think he’ll be just fine.
Don’t get me wrong. I was excited when we signed Markakis. Always really liked him and with the exception of his complete lack of power in 2015 (which i know was because of the neck surgery) here been great for us. But the emergence of Mallex and the acquisitions of Kemp and Inciarte, he’s the most expendable. Could even gain a decent bullpen arm or something in the deal if we eat enough salary. He’s not a Chris Johnson or Olivera by any means… but if trading him could help us in the near future I think it’s worth it.
And I expected get torn apart because any trade ideas proposed on this site (regardless of whether they’re completely asinine or totally legit) are usually met with “Good thing you’re not a GM, idiot!” Haha
GreenCustom24
Of course if I were Coppy I wouldn’t even offer to eat any of Nick’s salary unless specifically requested by Seattle and they offered up something else on top of Aoki. Bullpen arm (like I said), etc.
Gogerty
I have never, ever heard a commenter say that to another!!! Haha. But I agree, I think Mallex was finally putting it together when he got hit. I expect it would take him the same 4-6 weeks to get going again at the start of next season. I love Markakis as well, have honestly felt no reason to train him, but four fully equipped OFs [or two paid very well (Kemp and Markakis) and two young and ready (Smith and Inciarte)] makes for crowded OF. Do you sit the young and ready to get full exposure or sit the experienced and contributing?
I think it will be a great offseason for Atlanta, even if we don’t move one this month.
mrpadre19
Braves fans will really miss Markakis’s OBP and consistency after about 2-3 months if Kemp out there everyday next season.They need a top defender for late inning replacement for Kemp in RF.
southi
To be honest IF the Braves traded Markakis I’d doubt seriously they’d put Kemp in rightfield next season. The more likely outfield alignment would be Kemp in left, Mallex Smith in center, and Ender Inciarte patrolling right. When both Smith and Inciarte are on the field they can really go get them. Inciarte is extremely fundamentally sound and has a gun no matter where he plays. I think he has 12 assists already even with many baserunners/coaches giving him respect.
thebare
I hope WhiteSox stick to there guns only trade Sales has become a bit of a headache plus they better get a lot for him make that trade up north to the Cubs will pay big for Sales . That’s the only trade both teams need this winter
GreenCustom24
Semi annual buy one/get one sales?
Atlanta Braves Fan 4 Life
LOL@GreenCustom24……..Wow the Chi-Sox and their BOGO “Sales”.
tim815
From what it sounds like, the ChiSox aren’t much interested in trading with the Cubs. If they were viable trade partners, Vogelbach would have made sense in July.
ChiSoxCity
Vogelbach? Yeah, that’s equitable compensation for an elite starter with years left on his contract .
ChiSoxCity
And yes, that was sarcasm.
One Fan
Cubs and Sox will not be making a trade for Sale
petersdylan36
What’s anybody’s take on letting Renfroe, Margot, and Hedges stay at AAA through the playoffs? It’s not the big leagues but it’s still playoff experience/ winning culture/ pressured games/ team chemistry building.
disgruntledreader 2
The delay in promoting them has nothing whatsoever to do with the PCL playoffs.
The Padres inexplicably had Hedges (who did NOT have a spot opened for him at the trade deadline despite the question above) ride the big league roster for nearly the entire season last year. As a result, if he’s on the big league roster for more than 17 days this year, he’ll have exceeded his first year of service time and the club would only have five years of control left. Not coincidentally, if the Chihuahuas play through the the championship series, they’d be two days beyond that threshold. (Amusingly, El Paso has been in a total tailspin over the last two weeks, and you can rest assured that if they bow out early and don’t call him up ASAP, Scott Boras will have a conniption fit.)
In terms of Renfroe, they’re trying really hard to pretend they aren’t leaving their options open to mess with his service time by sending him out for a few weeks at the start of next season to get another year of control. If they delay until after the PCL playoffs – and the MLBPA doesn’t force a change in the way clubs manipulate players at the start of their careers in the new CBA this winter – they might still be able to do that.
petersdylan36
I totally understand all of that and I know how much they screwed themselves with Hedges last year having him on the roster. So I get they don’t call him up until mid september. I understand all the tricks MLB teams can play to have a young player as long as possible.
I’m just wondering if teams value how well their minor league teams play and if winning a minor league championship even matters to them and I also wonder if having young guys on a minor league team throughout a playoff run is something they value.
Example: say they could call up Renfroe, Margot, Hedges and have no issue at all about service time, this year at MLB level is lost. Do they bring this guys up for a taste at the big leagues or do they value young kids who went through a playoff run?
Big league experience is incredibly valuable but I just want to know other people’s opinions on minor league playoff experience. Is it something to value or am I over thinking it in my head?
zippytms
Andy Green may have been toeing the company line, but he said the following in a U-T interview:
“”I think you have to play every game with the anticipation of winning the baseball game,” Green said. “I think it’s a big part of culture. I’d love to see that shift within our organization. I think it’s starting to. Where I’ve been before, it was always one of the higher things of importance, learning how to win, learning how to win in the playoffs, learning how to win in pressure situations.
“Those types of atmospheres help their development in handling crucial situations at the major league level.”
Therefore, don’t expect to see Hedges, Renfroe, Asuaje, Rondon, Margot, or basically anyone else from the Chihuahua’s roster until their postseason is over. Only Hedges and Margot are on the 40-man from that list, so the others would need corresponding roster moves to see MLB action this year, which would also burn one of their option years.
comebacktrail28
It’s Unreal how many runs the Sox Score when Sale and Especially Quintanta pitch …… Just go back the past 3-4 years and look at game logs how many times they’ve left game in 7th or 8th inning down 2-1 … 3-2
BoldyMinnesota
That’s sad, because I by no means go by a pitcher win-loss record, but if Quintana had more wins he’d be the favorite for the cy young, or at least up there with happ, kluber and Sanchez
ChiSoxCity
Yep, it’s pathetic. The Sox front office is patently incompetent. They need to be replaced with folks who understand and apply metrics in regards to scouting and especially acquisitions. They spend too much money on marginal talent, and it has translated on the field. Scoring runs should never be a problem for a roster with a $120MM payroll unless the GM is making bad decisions.
micg
The Orioles would be a nice landing spot for either of the Braves outfielders.
Their corner OF defense has been horrible at times and has cost them a game or two. Markakis in right would help with defense, OBP, and would excite the fans and the clubhouse.
Francoeur would be a big improvement on defense over Reimold and Pierce as a sub, and neither of them is helping much with their bat.
The hardest part would be finding a place in the lineup for them with the 3 or 4 power threat , 1st baseman, DH, poor defense outfielders being shuffled in and out of the lineup!
slider32
With the lack of quality starting pitching the Sox could get a haul for Sale. Teams like the Yanks, Boston, and Dodgers would give them a haul. Yanks- Torres or Mateo, Judge or Sanchez, and two other prospects, Boston- Moncata, Devers, and Groome.