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A-Rod the GOAT
CC shouldn’t be a lock… he should have to earn it like the rest of the named group. There’s no reason his contract should even matter, so if he loses the battle in spring training, throw him in the bullpen and if he doesn’t like it/can’t produce there, then cut him. You have to pay him for 2017 regardless so just pull an A-Rod on him if you have to
bravesiowafan
25 million is an astronomical amount of money for a bullpen piece or for someone you get nothing out of. At least CC has shown signs he is worth some of that money, and on top of that this article directly states it will be hard to fill in on the rotation with a bad fa class and the high cost of trades.
Dookie Howser, MD
Have to pay him the same $25million if he is starting, coming out of the bullpen, or sitting at home.
Cam
Absolutely.
Teams are starting to figure it out – guaranteed money is guaranteed money. It’s dead whether they like it or not.
So where he pitches (rotation or bullpen) is independent to what $ he is owed.
There was a time where it was a face-saving thing, but fortunately, GM’s/Managers are growing up a little.
dodgerblue88
And 27 million is a quite a bit for an “advisor”…
But I agree that CC will almost assuredly stay in rotation as long as he can walk the distance from the dugout to the mound without getting hurt.
But at least with the ARod deal, they’re starting to show that they’ll move on from a sunk cost if it makes the team better. Maybe it’ll keep CC honest in the offseason.
Plus I’ve always liked watching CC pitch, from back when the Brewers tried to see if his arm would fall off down the stretch and yet he kept asking for the ball. Beast. Sad that as all pitchers do, he’s tumbled so far (no pun intended).
MB923
It is but you gotta do what’s best for the team. The Giants a few years ago had not 1 but 2 $20 million relievers for part of the season (Zito and Lincecum ).
adyo4552
Porcello, Price, and ERod will make a good 3-deep rotation for a short series. Maybe add Wright to the mix if he can show a return to form in the next 3 weeks. Pomeranz and Buchholz will make serviceable bullpen arms if any of the starters falter.
JaysFan19
Price in the playoffs lol
chuckymorris
Better than pomeranz
A'sfaninUK
I cant stop thinking about how the history of MLB would be different if only the Rays drafted Buster Posey instead of Tim Beckham. Posey was supposed to be #1 and fell to #5 for no reason at all.
johnsilver
Posey signed for a tad less than beckham that year as it was (6.2 compared to 6.1m). imagine had Tampa taken Posey #1? A team that generally drafts people who will sign for as cheap as possible throughout their history, other than in a limited number of cases?
Posey may have been a 7m+ sign for them.
jakem59
Pedro Alvarez was supposed to go #1 and quite a few people had Kyle Skipworth as the best catching prospect in the draft and Jason Castro as a very close third behind Posey. The reason he went 5th is because there wasn’t necessarily a certainty he’d stay behind the plate as he was a converted shortstop and the likes of Hosmer, Alvarez, and Matusz were also very highly rated prospects along with Beckham. The draft is a total gamble, there is no saying that Posey would be the same player he is now if he went to Tampa.
Ken M.
That quartet of Severino, Mitchell, Cessa and Green will rival the best young pitchers in the majors. Don’t be surprised if they combine to make 100+ starts next season with ERAs in the 2-3’s.
Valkyrie
Please. How are the 4 of them going to make 100+ starts unless the other 3 get injured? And an ERA of 2-3 for guys who are at 4+ to 6 this season is quite the little improvement don’t you think?
Don’t be surprised if the 4 of them make 50 combined starts with ERAs in the 4+ range. And be careful how much koolaid you drink.
Rbase
Really? That would mean all 4 of them have to be in the starting rotation for at least 2/3 of the season and be one of the top pitchers in the league.
I think 60 starts and an ERA around 4 is way more realistic, unless Severino becomes the next Michael Fulmer and the other starters all get injured Angels-style.
BoldyMinnesota
And Gary Sanchez is going to hit a homer in every at bat next year without making an out
Cam
This is taking optimism to new levels.
MB923
Why are you all feeding the troll?
koz16
I just hope that the Yankees don’t spend $15M+ per year for an older or mid rotation starter. Or trade to minor league talent for the same. I hope they stay the course for now and if they do spend big money on free agents wait another year or two for the top talent to be available.
They made it further than anyone expected this year with a patchwork staff and they have some intriguing SP prospects in the pipeline even if they aren’t #1 or #2 starters. Let’s have another year of patience and smart decisions and not go back to knee jerk reactions.
Valkyrie
They didn’t make it anywhere this year. 4th place and not in the post-season means they made it as far as the Rays. Nowhere.
ctguy
This has been a lousy year for the Yankees. Similar to the Sox last year. They sure made it back and so will the Yankees. It’s rare that either of these teams is not competitive.
MB923
The Yankees victory tonight surpasses the Red Sox win total from last season with still 12 games to go. 2016 Yankees >>>>>>>>>> 2015 Red Sox.
While the year overall hasn’t been the best, look at the division they play in. By far and away the best in baseball with only one sub .500 team
Dannydeman
Well when you consider that the yankees haven’t actually made the play offs in 4 years it’s not to good.
Rbase
I heard the Tigers will make Pelfrey available this winter 🙂
I don’t think the Yankees can and will do much this winter. The only long-term deal the should consider should be a closer. I like Jansen the most of the bunch, but a Chapman reunion gives them both a lefty and righty closing candidate (with Betances). Signing any of Trumbo, Bautista or Saunders to a long term deal would be a mistake.
notagain27
If CC can’t help the Yankees win in 2017, they simply need to cut him loose and move on. Learn a lesson from the 2016 season. If they had cut ARod loose earlier in the year, they might be well on their way to a division championship right now. Sure it will hurt their chances to stay under the luxury tax cap, but their chances of making it to the post season would dramatically improve.
Rbase
I don’t think the Yankees should cut CC because he can still provide useful starts. He is better than most team’s number 5 starters, which is the role he should be fulfilling next year.
slider32
I see the Yanks trying to trade McCann, Gardner, and some of their prospects in the off season beef up their starting rotation. The free agent market is weak. The should be able to come up with a package for some more pitching. Mateo seems to be the first prospect to go.
emac22
The yankees shouldn’t bother signing or trading for any starting pitchers unless they find an exceptional bargain or can get a number one starter.
They should sign Chapman as a free agent and use this season to audition pitchers in their system.
Tanaka, CC and Pineda are an easy top 3 starters
Mitchell, Severino, Green, Cessa, Montgomery, Enns and Adams should compete in spring training for the 4 and 5 spots.
The 5 who don’t win go to AAA and get try outs if and when injury or poor play dictate a change is in order.
Next year should be a year spent developing the next core instead of hoping for last gasps from vets.
slider32
I agree, unless they can trade some young prospects for a solid number 2 starter or a top prospect like Newcomb from the Braves. The Yanks seem to have some great prospect position players. I would like to see them trade both McCann and Gardner for some young pitching and package Mateo and Judge for another top line starter.
djc1877
How about McCann and a prospect for Julio Teheran?
TBaggins
Braves Fan: sure McCann, Sanchez and 1994 Jeter
Dannydeman
Dude seriously?