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ib6ub9
good luck
bucknerforhall
Cubs dodge a bullet for now
tim815
I wonder if it means Falvey is the better candidate. Or Falvey was more willing to accept Minnesota’s financial commitment level.
largeunit
BOOM!
Well deserved!!
Congratulations!!!
#MassachusettsStandUp
brian_daubach
Falvey’s dad?
jd396
#OkayNowSitDown
takeyourbase
Don’t know too much about him yet but he must be special if he was the top choice with a lot of quality names in the mix. Then again, who am I to say.
agentx
Egregious title inflation, in my opinion. If a President of Baseball Operations title is what it took to attract a talented but still green AGM on the rise, then MIN ownership has even more serious perception issues around the game than previously reported.
tim815
Interesting take.
brian_daubach
Agree
jd396
Pay attention to the Pohlads long enough and it’s plain to see hiring a 33-year-old outsider is so far beyond anything they’ve ever done before. Totally diametrically opposed to how they’ve run the team through the years. The coaching ranks are loaded with former Twins because that’s just how it’s always been done here.
So this is different. Way different.
Dock_Elvis
Absolutely. The Twins have always been rife with loyalty and nepotism. It goes all the way down to hiring Joe Mauers brother to manage the low class a team. Just NOT an organization that hires outsiders, let alone takes risks with them.
twins33
The reason for hiring Jake Mauer probably was just because he was a Mauer, but from everything I’ve heard, he’s the best manager the Twins have (MLB or MiLB). Been hearing that for years from outsiders and people who have worked for other managers.
All Twins fans have a right to be critical and skeptical regarding the things Twins have done or not done. The majority of us are. Just not sure Jake is deserving of that towards him.
twins33
MacPhail was a 32 year old outsider who was hired for player development and the next year became GM. So they have done something similar before, but under a different Pohlad.
Worked out well in bringing championships here. Hope it happens again.
jd396
That’s not really similar as that was right when Pohlad bought the team from Calvin Griffith.
twins33
Still similar to me since both were a Pohlad hiring a young outsider. It was our first look at Carl, but he still did it and you can’t erase that from history.
This one isn’t the exact same thing, because it’s been 20 plus years since they’ve done it again, but that’s why I used the word “similar” instead of “same.”
jd396
Again, I’m not sure how Carl Pohlad hiring a guy to run his new baseball team in 1984 has even the faintest shred of anything to do with a three decade pattern of promoting from within, but okay
twins33
That’s fine if you want to pretend it never happened but it did.
Again, I said it’s not the exact same situation but it is similar. Given the fact that Carl and every other Pohlad leans heavily towards loyalty and doing the same thing over and over again when it’s not working. It doesn’t matter if he was new to the team. We didn’t know how he was going to be as an owner or what he was going to do in the future. He could have hired/promoted an old guy who had some kind of Twins history and stuck with him for 15 plus years. He didn’t. That’s why going with MacPhail is even more shocking now that we can look at Pohlad’s history and use hindsight.
It’s taken 20 plus years for that to happen again. Getting Falvey is a good thing, but hiring a young outsider is not new for the Pohlads. Carl hired a guy who had no connection to the team (that I know of) and who was young. We don’t expect that from a Pohlad normally, given what has happened in between the MacPhail and Falvey era. The only reason why it’s considered such a big deal now is because of everything that has happened for the last twenty years. Otherwise Twins fans wouldn’t be talking about this as much as they have.
jd396
Pretend what never happened? Jesus, relax
jd396
Pohlad himself was an outsider and hiring a MacPhail kid is hiring from a legendary executive bloodline.
twins33
What’s hilarious is that you thought I wasn’t relaxed. It’s called a conversation.
Just pointing out that this has happened before, new ownership or not. Twins were thought of as behind the times back then and the same thought exists now. Hiring of a young outsider was completed to catch them up to the rest of MLB. It’s not new. It just takes decades to happen.
jd396
List of Pohlad insiders in 1984:
1. Carl Pohlad
2.
They just fired MacPhail’s scouting director who happened to be a former Twins player. I’m not sure what team out there has been more nepotistic over the last 30 years than the Twins.
Steve Adams
All the title does is let the Twins (Falvey) hire another young exec as a GM underneath him and still shape it as a promotion.
So much is being made of the title, which is silly in my eyes. If he’d been hired as a GM (as a younger Stearns was last year in Milwaukee), no one would care, and his responsibilities would be largely similar.
Making Falvey president isn’t about getting him into the org; it’s about getting the second exec they hire — presumably also an AGM — into the org by still offering a superior title.
sufferforsnakes
Why does it seem that the Tribe organization gets raided on a regular basis?
twins33
Who else have they lost recently? Haven’t really followed it.
Its being reported that the Twins went with him because he apparently has his hands all over the pitching throughout the Cleveland org (national media report). That’s what the Twins are the worst at. Indians have a very good MLB rotation, one of the best in AL, if not best.
jd396
Shapiro got poached by the Jays.