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fred-3
Why take the offer off the table? Lol, this is why no one significant ever wants to sign a long term deal with the O’s. Forever amateur hour with them.
davbee
You should only hope Trumbo doesn’t sign a long term deal with the O’s.
chesteraarthur
Because other teams that may have used him have filled the hole, thus reducing his potential market and pay day – would be my guess.
dorfmac
Poop or get off the pot. If he wanted to sign the deal he would have by now. O’s can’t wait around all offseason for Trumbo to leverage the deal elsewhere.
JKB 2
Why leave it on the table. You expect them to just leave it out there and let him shop it around and come be able to just accept it whenever he wants when he sees his market dropping
mrwheby1
No one significant signs with the Os because they’re not passing out 25M/year contracts. End of discussion
swami21
Considering that Weiters and Trumbo could both walk why wouldn’t O’s be interest in swapping Kevin Gausman for NYY’s Gardner, Austin Romaine, Chad Green, and Tyler Austin. Romaine gives them insurance should Weiters leave, Gardner gives them speed on the bases, GG defense in Left and solid offense geared to Camden Yards. Green can compete for a back end rotation starter, and Austin can replace some of Trumbo’s power at the DH or spell C. Davis at first.
hojostache
So….an expensive aging OF and spare parts for Gausman? Nah…I think the O’s would pass on that 10/10 times.
swami21
Really? The O’s just signed a “spare part” to be their regular catcher. Castillo became a FA because the Diamondbacks (Who?) wouldn’t give him a contract for 2017. Romaine is a better defensive catcher and has shown that his offense will improve with more playing time (which he won’t get sitting behind Gary Sanchez). These “spare parts” would start in left, catch between 80 – 100 games, fit in as the #4 or 5 Starter or at least be the long man out of the pen, and Austin would give the O’s depth in the OF, 1st, and even 3rd unless you expect him to play 162 games. Financially it is a good deal for both teams. Gardner’s locked in at $13M per year through 2018 plus a team option for 2019 when he’d be 36 years old. The others are all team controlled for the next 2 or 3 years.
orioles101_milller
Spend the extra 25 mill on encarnacion
Dock_Elvis
I wonder if the Rockies are holding out on Trumbo for the potential of a deal with the White Sox for Abreau. Abreau just locked down a salary in arbitration, that could help facilitate any deal. I suppose they’d also be interested in Quintana. Quintana is the deal of the winter as far as I’m concerned. Stealthy good numbers.
LADreamin
They might be waiting on EE’s price to drop. I’d rather have EE over any of the 1B/DH types available including Trumbo and Abreau.
fred-3
EE can’t play 1B for 163 games
pukelit
Good because he only needs to for 162…sorry
Dock_Elvis
I think Abreau is a dream at Coors….power sure….but he hits the ball VERY hard…and those are big gaps in Colorado…some of those doubles will carry as well. He’d look alot like Andres Gallaraga with the Rockies….I think his avg would explode….maybe .310-320 with 40 HR…he has the bat that Arenado has
politicsNbaseball
Quintana does have good numbers, however his reported asking price does reflect that so I’m not to sure if I’d call him the deal of the winter
Dock_Elvis
I’m referring to him as the deal of the winter because I feel he’s the pitcher that could possibly have the sneakiest high impact on who would receive him. Sure, his price is reportedly high….but someone could make a case that hes everything that Sale was, and possibly better going forward.
I just meant in general transaction pop factor. Quintana isn’t going to light up any Facebook trends. I think most likely would be the Dodgers…but things change. They dont have to flip him…someone has to toss innings on the south side.
East Coast Bias
Oh boy. That Yanks rotation does not inspire confidence at all. So many question marks after Tanaka.
Foreveryankees
Tanakas the biggest? Does that elbow hold up?
jleve618
I thought that elbow was done for last year for sure. Who knows, he made it this long maybe he’s good.
BrodiesHairisGreezy!
That Pineda is the biggest joke of all. A younger version of Mike Pelfrey.
CubsFanForLife
But his FIP! His FIP says he’s better than his traditional markers suggest! sigh… If only he could be consistent.
Deke
The Danny Espinosa situation got me thinking. Does anyone know do players privately ask to be traded very often and if so, do teams actually do it in response to a request? I just wonder if this happens behind closed doors?
Doc Halladay
I’m sure it happens on a semi-regular basis and probably more often than we realize/know of. When Scott Rolen was in Toronto, he quietly asked JP Ricciardi to deal him to a more Central located team so he could be with his family(pretty sure his wife was expecting at the time) but also told him that if the deal didn’t make sense for the team, to not overly worry about it.
Deke
Thanks. I guess if it does happen nobody wants to ever publicize that because if it got back to the fans that a player wanted to leave a team they’d be crucified. We are a fickle bunch!
Yankees1991
The Yankees should take a flyer on either Jason Hammel or Tyson Ross. Both could be had on cheap deals. Worst case scenario, Hammels and Ross act as innings eaters. I have little faith in Severino, Cessa and Warren at this point. Would like to see Green get another opportunity in the rotation after his strong performance last year.
aff10
Hammel’s likely an innings-eater, but Ross’ worst-case scenario isn’t really back-end guy. He’s quite the health risk. Not sure he’s a great fit for the Yankees, seems better for a team needing a boom-or-bust guy like Miami or Seattle
bradthebluefish
Surprised that Ivan Nova (SP) and the Yankees are not discussed much. Also, Mariners would be a great fit for Ivan Nova as well given their trade that involved shipping away Tijuana Walker (SP) to Arizona.
kiwimlbfan
I’m not. That boat has well and truly sailed.
rivera42
Stop messing with Warren. Put him in the pen and keep him there. Not expecting much from the rotation this year, but hoping for continued improvement from Severino, Green, and Cessa while the kids in the farm(Sheffield, Adams, Kaprielian) continue their seasoning.
Manny's Pancakes
If I recall, didn’t the orioles take Chris Davis’ offer “off the table” last offseason before finally paying him a lot of $$$. Maybe that’s what got him to agree to all that deferred cash.
IMO would rather have Edwin Encarnacion on a Cespedes like one year contract than Trumbo.
blentz
Frankly if the Os are offering Trumbo something like 4/$50-55mm I’d much prefer that they take that offer and go talk to EE and move it to the $85mm range. Trumbo has had one big year and wants paid for it. EE has a track record and his power in Camden Yards along with his OBP would make the Os much better.
hojostache
EE could go for <$85m…as his market has been soft all off-season. I agree about the Cespedes type deal because it is win-win for both sides.
swami21
Sorry, that’s Weiters not Writers. Dam that spellcheck.
sael
F off familia , i want him to trade hes a piece of crap
jleve618
He does seem to dissapoint in the big spot.
DrCrawdad2009
The Yanks seem more likely to trade a veteran starting pitcher for prospects than to trade a bunch of prospects for a starter. The Yanks stand to lose Tanaka, Sabathia, and Pineda at the end of the 2017 season.