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James_07
If the Cardinals sign Dozer then their infield situation would be a little less crazy. As a Cardinals fan I would like to see that happen. If it did it would add some more power to the lineup as well.
em650r
You mean the Cards trade for Dozier
slimjones92
I think we all know what he meant, no biggie
slimjones92
I didn’t think that was a big deal, but looks like multiple ppl took issue with an honest mistake/mistype
teufelshunde4
Some Cards fans seem to think all players are signed..
thesip23
Dozier isn’t a free agent. He will need to be acquired from the Twins.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
That’s going to be a mighty big trade package if it is indeed not just a smoke screen.
furnasty
Dozier is not a free agent. The Cardinals (or any other team) would likely need to surrender substantial prospect resources to acquire him as he is coming off of a huge year and is relatively affordable for a couple more years.
jkim319
As a Cubs fan, the idea of the cardinals adding Dozier is spooky. I for one am hoping a deal cannot be worked out
JKB 2
So you are saying the Cubs should be afraid?
jkim319
Sure… respect what the cardinals have done (as an organization) and how dozier allows the cardinals to replace all of the offense lost (with a middle infield position).
bigjonliljon
Now that’s funny.
John Murray
Any team that isn’t a bit scared of the key opponents in their division are already in trouble, including the Cubs. Injuries alone could make that a reality. And even losing Schwarber last year…pretty much everything else went as the Cubs hoped. Won’t always be that way.
phoard1
Yep, loved Heyward’s production.
John Murray
Yep and the complete absence of injuries to the pitching staff, Health of Rizzo, Bryant, Russell, Zobrist, Baez, Fowler…it all went just fine. They’re gonna miss Fowler a lot more than they think though…
Bartis
Fowler was on the DL just before the A.S. Break
JKB 2
I agree you should respect the competition. I just don’t think fear and respect are the same. But I understand what you mean now
James_07
I realize now I have a typo
jkim319
Thx JKB. No clarification needed but appreciated
JFactor
Love that podcast in the Cards link related to payroll
Outlaws12
Sounds great but depends on who the twins are asking for. Probably not worth the trade chips Cards would have to give up.
bonquisha
The question is: is anybody actually willing to include a superior young pitcher compared to de leon? Only one i see is alex reyes but i doubt the cards are down with that.
Twins need pitching soooooooo badly.
Giants and cards have some solid pieces to trade, but not necessarily in the SP department position wise.
LEVERAGE WARS
stl_cards16 2
The Cardinals have a ton of SP depth. Weaver, Alcantera, Flaherty, Fernandez, Gomber are all legitimate pitching prospects. Weaver is pretty close to the same level as De Leon. Pitching is the one thing the Cardinals can afford to deal.
twinsfan77
Do you think the Cardinals would be willing to include Carson Kelly? Not that his name has been mentioned anywhere I have seen, but the Twins have almost zilch for catching prospects in their farm system.
stl_cards16 2
I really think he’s off-limits. I’m not saying I think he’ll be great if anything. But they seem to really like him as Yadi’s replacement that will be needed before long.
AddisonStreet
A long term deal with Matz sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
cardfan2011
I wasn’t expecting them to sign EE anyways. However, I was very surprised to hear of their interest in Dozier earlier
robertj53086
I’m a huge Cardinal fan, but all off season Mo has said that he wants to give Wong a chance this year. I’m not sure how adding Dozier would make sense. I’m betting it is a smoke screen.
stl_cards16 2
And he has said he wants to improve the defense. Dozier at 3rd could be an upgrade over Peralta/Gyrko
thisbaezkid
Dozier played 172.2 innings at 3rd in the minors, and never in the majors. I don’t think he can’t handle it, but to move him off 2nd wouldn’t make a ton of sense. His value is at 2nd.
stl_cards16 2
I don’t disagree. But if the Cardinals feel he makes the team better by playing 3rd, it doesn’t matter what it does to his personal value.
I don’t think this is likely, either.
cardfan2011
Neither do I. I’d be surprised if they could trade for Dozier without Reyes in the package
cards1029
Matheny would have to play Wong to see what he can really do!
lesterdnightfly
Mo has to justify the crazy $25MM extension of Wong that he made. Wong’s got to be near the top of the MLB Overrated/Overpaid List.
beyou02215
I know it’s not the point of the post, but I still don’t know what the Rocks are doing, and I’ll be especially baffled if they trade Blackmon. Don’t know why they spent all that money (and the pick) on Desmond when there were much less expensive options at 1b.
Cam
Surprised to see Morse being considered in the outfield still. He was poor enough in the field to warrant being viewed as a 1B – I can’t imagine he’s going to be any better after more time off.
Enarxis
Synderguaard
Sanchez
Stroman
Greene
Foley
Could have been the Jays 2018 rotation !!!
Enarxis
Or could have also been
Synderguaard
Sanchez
Stroman
Hoffman
Norris
As soon as 2017 !!!
jdgoat
Honestly Sanchez, Happ, Estrada, Stroman, Liriano might be better off for 2017, but it does hurt in the future.
BillGiles
$200 million for Harvey… $$$$
metseventually 2
Classic cardinals fan
metseventually 2
Oops wrong post!
nailz#4life
Matt Adams and Wong for Dozier
Phillies2017
There’s no chance there- If the Dodgers were looking to dump De Leon
It would need to include Reyes, Alcantara Wong and a throw in like McKinney
calikid13
Lol! Reyes is untouchable. Weaver has as much value as De Leon.
chesteraarthur
nope
cardfan2011
I don’t think you finished the trade proposal there, it’ll take more than that lol
Dock_Elvis
Matt Adams to Colorado is a little intriguing because he won’t break the bank on an sp move for the Rockies.
calikid13
Weaver, Wong, Adams, and Mayer for Dozier seems about right.
cardfan2011
Part of it I think depends on who the Twins would want in return, position players or SP? I know Wong would have to be in it, but beyond that I don’t know.
Bartis
I doubt that would do it. Wong and Adams are somewhat damaged goods until they prove otherwise.
lesterdnightfly
More of “let’s trade Cardinals’ junk for a quality player” proposals, eh?
Wong is very close to being an AAAA guy. No one would want him other than as filler or one-year placeholder. And at $5MM per year? Nyet !
Caveat emptor…..
JYD5321
Nobody that follows the Mets needs to be informed every time the penny pinchers aren’t going to spend money. Alderson should just let us know the few instances in which they will. Or might. Or might threaten to.
giants51
Find a young outfielder…….????