Elias Type A/Type B Free Agents Rumors
Links for Thursday...
- John Smoltz told Dan Patrick that the Yankees and Dodgers also courted him.
- KNBR had interviews with Scott Boras and Ned Colletti yesterday.
- The Dodgers are "only monitoring" Kris Benson and Chad Cordero.
- The Phillies have "kept tabs" on Cordero and Eric Milton.
- Baseball America ranked the Rangers' farm system as the best in baseball.
- Andy MacPhail says the Orioles don't necessarily have to add a first baseman.
- South Side Sox and Sox Machine on the Bartolo Colon signing.
- Jon Paul Morosi says Jason Isringhausen is a "natural fit" for the Tigers.
- The Red Sox will only get a supplemental pick for Paul Byrd if he signs before the June draft.
- Barry Bloom gathers responses from baseball execs on the salary cap issue.
- Eddie Bajek made a breakthrough in his attempt to crack the Elias code.
- Richard Justice has an interesting story involving new Astro Russ Ortiz.
- Rickey Henderson says he's still available to play. Asked about the WBC, he responded, ""What is [the WBC], wrestling?"
- Transcript of an interview with Red Sox owner John Henry.
All of the arbitration offers are in. Here's a list of which free agents were offered arbitration. If these players decline the offer and sign elsewhere, the original club will get one or two draft picks. There's an additional "tax" on these Type A free agents, as you have to give up a pick to sign one. For more about the process, click here. For the full up-to-date free agent list, click here.
Type A (15 players)
Type B (9 players)
Surprisingly not offered arbitration:
Teams have a chance to snag a supplemental draft pick if they offer arbitration to their Type B free agent and he signs elsewhere. The risk is that the player could accept and leave the team with an unwanted financial burden.
Of the 33 Type B free agents, which do you think will be offered arbitration Monday? Check the box next to those who will be offered arbitration, in your opinion. Take the poll here, see the results here.
There are 27 Type A free agents. To receive two draft picks as compensation, the player's original team must offer arbitration. If the player turns down the offer and signs elsewhere, the original team gets the picks. If the player accepts the offer, the team is "stuck" with the player on a non-guaranteed one-year deal. Arbitration decisions are due December 1st.
Let's do a reader survey on whether arbitration will be offered for each Type A free agent. Click the checkbox next to any player you predict will be offered arbitration. Click here to take the survey, and here to view the results.
Here's a list of the possible Type A and Type B free agents this winter, courtesy of ESPN and Keith Law. A few changes to the previous estimates: Bob Howry is a Type A, while Milton Bradley, Ivan Rodriguez, Randy Johnson, Luis Ayala, Rudy Seanez, and Arthur Rhodes are Type Bs.
Bobby Abreu (Yankees)
Doug Brocail (Astros)
A.J. Burnett (Blue Jays)
Pat Burrell (Phillies)
Orlando Cabrera (White Sox)
Juan Cruz (Diamondbacks)
Ryan Dempster (Cubs)
Adam Dunn (Diamondbacks)
Brian Fuentes (Rockies)
Brian Giles (Padres)
Bob Howry (Cubs)
Orlando Hudson (Diamondbacks)
Raul Ibanez (Mariners)
Jason Isringhausen (Cardinals)
Derek Lowe (Dodgers)
Damaso Marte (Yankees)
Jamie Moyer (Phillies)
Mike Mussina (Yankees)
Darren Oliver (Angels)
Oliver Perez (Mets)
Andy Pettitte (Yankees)
Manny Ramirez (Dodgers)
Edgar Renteria (Tigers)
Francisco Rodriguez (Angels)
C.C. Sabathia (Brewers)
Ben Sheets (Brewers)
Russ Springer (Cardinals)
Mark Teixeira (Angels)
Jason Varitek (Red Sox)
Kerry Wood (Cubs)
That's 30 Type As, though Giles and Marte may have their options picked up and Mussina may retire.
Jeremy Affeldt (Reds)
Moises Alou (Mets)
Garret Anderson (Angels)
Luis Ayala (Mets)
Joe Beimel (Dodgers)
Casey Blake (Dodgers)
Hank Blalock (Rangers)
Milton Bradley (Rangers)
Paul Byrd (Red Sox)
Mike Cameron (Brewers)
Alan Embree (Athletics)
Eric Gagne (Brewers)
Jon Garland (Angels)
Luis Gonzalez (Marlins)
Ken Griffey Jr. (White Sox)
Mark Grudzielanek (Royals)
Trevor Hoffman (Padres)
Randy Johnson (Diamondbacks)
Jeff Kent (Dodgers)
Paul Lo Duca (Marlins)
Braden Looper (Cardinals)
Mark Loretta (Astros)
Brandon Lyon (Diamondbacks)
Greg Maddux (Dodgers)
Trever Miller (Rays)
Miguel Olivo (Royals)
Brad Penny (Dodgers)
Dennys Reyes (Twins)
Arthur Rhodes (Marlins)
Ivan Rodriguez (Yankees)
Rudy Seanez (Phillies)
Brian Shouse (Brewers)
John Smoltz (Braves)
Frank Thomas (Athletics)
Salomon Torres (Brewers)
Juan Uribe (White Sox)
David Weathers (Reds)
Randy Wolf (Astros)
Gregg Zaun (Blue Jays)
That's 36 Type Bs, though Cameron, Embree, Miller, Olivo, Penny, and Torres could have their options picked up and Alou, Griffey, Kent, and Maddux could retire.
Talking to a few people in the game, it seems that the Type A/B free agent quota depends on the number of Type A/Bs who file. If 62 or fewer such players file (which is possible) then each team will have a quota of three Type A or B signings. Regardless of that, teams are allowed to sign as many Type A/Bs as they lose. As far as I can tell, the quota has never been an issue in the past.
Eddie Bajek at Detroit Tigers Thoughts has his projections of the Elias rankings for National League second basemen, third basemen, and shortstops.
- Type A: Orlando Hudson. Hudson will surely be offered arbitration from the D'Backs, and will likely decline in search of a multiyear deal. The D'Backs could snag a first-round pick if the Cardinals, White Sox, or Mets sign him (among others).
- Tybe B: Jeff Kent, Casey Blake, Mark Loretta. Blake seems likely to get an arb offer and turn it down, resulting in a supplemental draft pick for the Dodgers if he leaves Los Angeles.
- Neither: Rafael Furcal, Ray Durham, Omar Vizquel, Felipe Lopez, and many more. Furcal, the best available shortstop, carries no draft pick compensation penalty (nor do the Type Bs).
Eddie Bajek at Detroit Tigers Thoughts has Elias projections for American League second basemen, third basemen, and shortstops.
- Type A: Orlando Cabrera, Edgar Renteria. Cabrera certainly gets an offer of arbitration and signs elsewhere. The White Sox have to be hoping the Dodgers, Blue Jays, or Twins sign him. The Tigers offering arbitration to Renteria is a borderline call - would they be OK with him accepting?
- Type B: Mark Grudzielanek, Juan Uribe. The Royals, hoping to try someone new at second base, may not offer arb to Grudzielanek. Uribe seems unlikely, as his salary in '08 was high for a utility guy.
Eddie Bajek at Detroit Tigers Thoughts has his National League 1B/OF Elias projections ready.
- Type A: Manny Ramirez, Adam Dunn, Pat Burrell. Manny has already agreed to decline an offer of arbitration, so the Dodgers are getting two picks if he leaves. The D'Backs could end up with tons of picks, with Dunn, Orlando Hudson, Juan Cruz, and Brandon Lyon eligible for free agency.
- Type B: Moises Alou, Luis Gonzalez, Mike Cameron. Alou and Gonzalez won't be offered arbitration. The Brewers could offer it to Cameron if they decline his option, if they believe he would seek a contract elsewhere.
Eddie Bajek at Detroit Tigers Thoughts presents his Elias rankings for American League first baseman/outfielders/DHs, who are all grouped together for this purpose.
- Type A: Mark Teixeira, Raul Ibanez, Bobby Abreu, Milton Bradley. All four will probably be offered arbitration and will decline. Click here to see the unprotected first-round draft picks - teams may be rooting for their Type As to sign with these clubs.
- Type B: Garret Anderson, Ken Griffey Jr., Frank Thomas. Hard to see an offer of arbitration to any of these three.
Readers often ask whether teams will face quotas if they want to sign multiple Type A or B free agents. So tonight I busted out the Basic Agreement and tried to translate it into English. The relevant section:
(a) Clubs shall be limited in the number of Type A and B Players, as defined below, they may subsequently sign to contracts. The number of signings permitted shall be related to the number of Players electing free agency under this Section B. If there are 14 or less such Players, no Club may sign more than one Type A or B Player. If there are from 15 to 38 such Players, no Club may sign more than two Type A or B Players. If there are from 39 to 62 such Players, no Club may sign more than three Type A or B Players. If there are more than 62 such Players, the Club quotas shall be increased accordingly. There shall be no restrictions on the number of unranked Players that a Club may sign to contracts.
(b) Irrespective of the provisions of subparagraph (a) above, a Club shall be eligible to sign at least as many Type A and B Players as it may have lost through Players having become free agents under this Section at the close of the season just concluded.
Got all that? There will be many more than 62 players electing free agency, so the exact number of Type A/Bs allowed per team is unknown. It is certain that each team will be allowed to sign at least three. 191 players are potentially eligible for free agency. It seems that if 131+ players file, each club could be allotted up to six Type A/B signings (more than enough for most).
The above-quoted section b lets certain teams sign even more than the normal allotment. Say every team is allowed to sign six. Two teams, the Dodgers (8) and Angels (7), could potentially lose more than six Type A/Bs. So if the Dodgers somehow lost all eight of their A/B free agents (Kent, Furcal Blake, Ramirez, Lowe, Maddux, Penny, Beimel), they would be allowed to sign eight to make up for it.
To sum it up, I don't see any team running up against the Type A/B quota. Comments and questions are welcome - I am not certain my interpretation of the Basic Agreement is correct.