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rainyperez
I like donuts because they are good.
jwsox
I’m sorry I still don’t get this. They traded two young affordable guys in pence and Bourne. Yet kept Meyers, lee and wandy? At the very least wandy and Meyers could have been moved.
Bleed_Orange
because Lee is not good and expensive
Phillies_Aces35
Because Lee, Myers, and Rodriguez wouldn’t have gotten them anything back prospect wise and the Phillies didn’t want either of those guys.
The Rockies claimed Wandy but for some reason the Astros didn’t want to dump his contract.
letsgogiants
It wasn’t that the Astros didn’t want to get rid of him, but that they put a huge price tag on Rodriguez, something the Rockies balked at. If the Rockies were in contention at the time of the claim, the Rockies might have had a better chance at actually getting him.
letsgogiants
It wasn’t that the Astros didn’t want to get rid of him, but that they put a huge price tag on Rodriguez, something the Rockies balked at. If the Rockies were in contention at the time of the claim, the Rockies might have had a better chance at actually getting him.
LUWahooNatFan
This is news?
barroomhero
Yeah, I saw this and was thinking: “And in other obvious news, the sky is blue.”
FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
I hope they make Norris available
ABTY7
How sad… Understand the complex ownership issue, but Houston is the 4th largest market in the country- rebuild, sure- but to have Clint f’ing Barmes be iffy due to finanical restrants is rediculous…
sourbob
Picking up relievers who might bounce back with an eye toward flipping them at deadline? That’s a good idea. Matter of fact, that’s exactly how rebuilding teams should use their slack payroll on free agents. If you end up with $8-12MM to spend, spend it on one year deals for bounceback candidates. The Pirates did all right with this system.
bigpat
They should have traded Wandy or Myers and extended Bourn instead of trading him for a stale bag of cheese curls.
johnsilver
They should unload Ed Wade along with the high salary guys as well. He has lost it since leaving Philly. Signing Billy Hall was just an exclamation point to all the boner deals, FA, plus ridiculous extensions he has given his own players since he went to Houston.
Guess baseball needs at least 1 resident loon and with Minaya, Hendry gone only him (Wade) and Sabean are left. The asylum is losing it’s residents.
Ethanator99
I don’t even know if this is worth a post. It’s like creating a thread that says. “Yankees have a lot of money” or “baseball is fun to watch”
aa 2
If it includes Pirates/Astros games it’s debatable…
Matthew Dolter
cutch is one of the most electric players in baseball so sorry you miss it phanboy
aa 2
Great, so the game has one good player in it.
fxx3605
carlos lee running at speed is laughable
Phillies_Aces35
I think the package they got for Pence was great and might end up being Wade’s best return from the three deals he did with the Phillies.
The Bourn deal was atrocious though. They may end up becoming solid major league guys but to not get at least one stud for him is laughable, but it’s Ed Wade so that’s to be expected.
The one deal that’s going to haunt him for years is the Anthony Gose for Brett Wallace deal, IMO. Gose is going to be a star in this league.
Biggio3000
I agree, we got a great return for Pence but Bourn on the other hand was horrible. We should have gotten Minor in that deal.
eddie winslow
i think people sometimes overvalue bourn. he’s a great, useful player who i wish we could have kept because he makes the team better, but at the end of the day i think people expected too much of a return for him. i mean yeah there’s the amazing center field gold glove defense and base stealing abilities, and he gets on base reasonably and hits for average, and there aren’t really any better options at leadoff in the game, but did the braves make the playoffs? i’m not blaming their slide on bourn, because he did more than his part after the trade, but is he the great player that propels them to the world series? no, he’s not a superstar or a game-changer. would ed wade like to have gotten minor or vizcaino or delgado? absolutely. were the braves about to let that happen? obviously not. wade made the trade he could, and it was safe. i wish he could have gotten a stud, but i don’t think it would have happened, not for just bourn. i’m okay with the bourn trade, don’t love it, don’t hate it. not atrocious. we got a little bit of pitching depth we desperately needed.
and as far as the gose for wallace, i’m not sure if it’ll haunt us. i mean gose might very well end being a much better player than wallace, gose is essentially another michael bourn. but the few prospects the astros do have, are outfielders. it won’t haunt us if austin wates or george springer have anything to say about it.
Backup_Slider
Gose will be a very different player from Bourn. Gose figures to hit for lower average, slug 15 to 25 homers, steal 30 to 40 bases, won’t have anywhere near Bourn’s range, and probably will wind up as a rightfielder given his cannon-like arm. Ed Wade did poorly on the Bourn trade and would have been better off dealing him in the postseason if that was the best offer that he could find. Conversely, Wade did phenomenally well in the Pence deal, particularly given the eventual inclusion of Domingo Santana.
genius.gm.on.mlb.the.show
theres no lockout right?
tony mengden
no there won’t be a lockout in baseball thank god, Football and Basketball lockouts were embarrassing. The owners and players association in baseball actually get along for the most part and agree on most things. There are a few kinks, like international drafting and for set slotting on players in drafts and even possibly a draft budget depending on how many picks a team had, position in the draft like the NFL does. But nothing major
genius.gm.on.mlb.the.show
Cool thanks for the update man, i couldnt find any straight news on it for some reason. Thats great to hear, i was sweating it out after the way the NFL lockout went. Hopefully they get those issues fixed soon so they keep getting along hahaha
wickedkevin
Astros unlinkely to be major league team
Matthew Stebenne
Well, I mean, this is almost news… I feel more knowledgeable now than I did 5 minutes ago…
Matt Talbert
Well – Brett Wallace was a high rated prospect and I too was high on him. Wade got a great return for Pence, but Bourn was stolen by my Braves. I think you received one decent prospect out of those Ascensio I think his name is. He’s going to be a good reliever maybe even your closer for years to come.
Here is the future for the Astros:
C – Chris Wallace ( —> Mike Napoli)
1b – Chris Singleton ( —> compares to Ryan Howard)
LF – JD Martinez (good young player) — compares to ?
SS – Jonathan Villar or Jiovanni Mier
2b – Jose Altuve (good young player) —> Compares to Danny Espinosa.
RF – Domingo Santana ( —> Carlos Gonzalez)
CF – Ariel Ovando ( —> Darryl Strawberry)
Extra OF — George Springer,
3b – Michael Kvasnickla (good young hitter —> Michael Young)
SP – Bud Norris, Jarrod Cosart, Jordan Lyles, Mike Foltyniewicz, Bushueseveral marginal armsRP – Dallas Keuchel, Mark Melancon
Biggio3000
Hopefully the prospects will all work out but yeah we got hosed in the Bourn trade, we should have at least gotten Minor
stroh
Unlike many folks, I think Ed Wade is getting this team back on the right track. The talent that has been drafted the last 3 years and the trades have added several very good young players to the talent pool, and we already saw last year some of those guys come up……Altuve, Martinez, Paredes, Lyles, Sosa. I am going to be patient, and yes it will take a few years, but this is the right way to do it instead of throwing a lot of money at players who in 70% of the cases don’t perform up to their contracts. This is the way the team was built in the Biggio, Bagwell, Oswalt, Berkman era and that is the only way to do it to remain consistently competitive.