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gmenfan 2
Hate to say it, but as a Giants fan, the D’Backs had a really nice offseason.
DbacksAreBeast
I love you.
gmenfan 2
Please, you’re smothering me.
DbacksAreBeast
I love you.
SolidarityInSF
I don’t think it’s really clear at all. Most of the moves seems like lateral shuffles disguised as “win now” decisions: Cahill, Kubel, banking on Aaron Hill’s ridiculous BABIP spike in Arizona. Really the best move they made was back in June when they drafted Trevor Bauer, the compensation prize for a disastrous 2010.
I question whether they got meaningfully better, over and above the fact they played over their heads last year.
Shawn Bronald
Kennedy, Hudson, Cahill, Saunders and either Collmenter or Bauer is a ridiculous starting 5. Upton is older and will most likely have an MVP caliber year. Adding Kubel is huge since now they have a big left-handed bat. They have Parra (2011 Gold Glove winner) at a 4th outfielder, so they’re deep in the outfield. The addition of Stephen Drew is like a free agent pickup (assuming he returns quickly and fully healthy, which all signs point to exactly that). The bullpen, which was one of the best last year, got better with Saito and Breslow, plus having Patterson and Shaw with a full season under their belts can only be a plus (not to mention Hernandez and Putz still closing out games). Finally, they will start the year with Goldschmidt at 1st. All in all, they’re vastly improved over the team that began 2011 and solidly better than the team that ended the year.
The NL West should be a fun division to follow all year!
SolidarityInSF
Saunders and Collmenter were exhibits A and B in overperforming in 2011. Kennedy is very good, but he gets an honorable mention (there are concerning peripherals). Bauer will be very very good soon, but posting much better than a 4 ERA (4th starter material in this league) would be very unexpected for a rookie fresh out of college. Cahill, while not a slouch, will probably see regression going from Oakland to Arizona, even as a ground-ball pitcher. Bullpens, by nature, are volatile. And Goldschmidt at first has great upside, but it doesn’t change the fact that he can’t hit a curveball, and probably will look more like a cheap Mark Reynolds (which, hint, isn’t as good as people think). Kubel will be a butcher in the spacious Arizona outfield, and Drew’s health remains a question mark; signs don’t point to a speedy recovery at all.
So… like I said, it’s only disguised as an upgrade. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them win 90 games, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see them win 70, either.
LittleBlooper
Goldschmidt has a much better eye than Reynolds. I see him as the Adam Dunn type of player with a relatively low to decent BA but with a High OBP and great power numbers.
He may not be good at hitting the curve, but he can learn to avoid swinging at it or fowl it off, where as Reynolds will never have that kind of eye for the ball.
Andy Forrester
Then please explain Vogelsong? A career minor leaguer with a career year, due for some regression perhaps?
What exactly did your Giants do to progress? I’m still not sold on Buster Posey, even last year’s Posey wasn’t the same as was the World Series year and was way under everyone’s expectations. Take last years Posey, destroy the ankle on his drive leg, and you lose a lot of power, power that was mediocre at best; Adam LaRoche behind the dish.
SolidarityInSF
You’re cute when you get defensive, you know that? Once again, nowhere do I claim that the Giants had a superior offseason. Sorry if you can’t deal with critical analysis. Don’t get mad at me, get mad at the ownership downgrading from Kelly Johnson and Gerardo Parra to overpay Aaron Hill and Jason Kubel.
Andy Forrester
Downgrading Kelly Johnson? He was barely hitting above the Mendoza Line, and we brought in Hill who had a great 2nd half hitting over .300 with Arizona, who also has much greater defense. Replacing Parra with Kubel was odd, we all know that, but a real cleanup hitter in Arizona was required.
SolidarityInSF
Yes, he hit over .300 with Arizona, and still finished with worse numbers than Johnson. Johnson is a healthy regression candidate for 2012, and will probably thrive in Toronto while Hill continues, in aggregate, to be pretty uninspiring.
The Diamondbacks didn’t need a cleanup hitter, and they aren’t getting one in Kubel; he put up the same OBP and SLG as Chris Young last season, and his peripherals are suspect. Compound that with the fact that he is slow and bad defensively, and stick him in one of the biggest outfields in the sport, and you have a disaster waiting to happen.
The Diamondbacks have never hurt for offense: in 2011, they finished 3rd in SLG, and 4th in OPS. The main differences between the 94-win team of last year and the 64-win team of 2009 were pitching, defense, and a little bit of luck. Kubel serves none of those needs.
Andy Forrester
Reynolds failed to hit for average even in the minors, Goldschmidt has excelled at hitting for power and average in all levels of the game. A .250 batting average for a rookie is pretty solid, he started the season slow but batted well over .300 towards the end of the season. Goldy is also clutch, even though “clutch” doesn’t exist. He delivered many game changing blows last season and in the offseason, expect great things from the kid. But hey, if he’s not on the Media’s “SFGIANTS2010!!” bandwagon, he must suck, right?
SolidarityInSF
Reynolds, age 24 rookie season: .279/.349/.495
.378 BABIP, 31.2% K-rate, 0.29 BB/K
Goldschmidt, age 24 rookie season: .250/.333/.474
.324 BABIP, 29.9% K-rate, 0.38 BB/K
Actually, Schmidtty matches Reynolds sophomore season even better: .239/.320/.458
.320 BABIP, 33.3% K-rate, 0.31 BB/K
What happens when the 20% line drive rate goes down? The production disappears, just like Reynolds. He’s even more hopeless against the breaking ball stuff.There are plenty of reasons to believe Goldschmidt will tank once he’s scouted properly and his road numbers come back to earth. The media has nothing to do with it.
Andy Forrester
Care to explain how any other NL West team improved outside of Posey returning?
SolidarityInSF
You’ll have to demonstrate for me where I made that assertion. The NL West offseason was pretty much an LMFAO music video.
iheartyourfart
padres brought in an all-star left fielder and finally have a first baseman.
gmenfan 2
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle …
LittleBlooper
Not a big fan of signing Bloomquist and JohnnyMac to 2 year deals. I’d have rather they saved that 6.3 mil along with the 6 mil for Saunders and tried to sign Aramis Ramirez for 3B.
Roberts had a career year, and even then he still only hit .250.
101andcounting
You don’t want Aramis. He’s a historically slow starter, and his defense is well past its prime. I agree, though, that they could have done better than keeping Ryan Roberts. I think he’s a flash in the pan.
Bauer and Skaggs are gonna be the real thing though – AZ is going to have some great pitching in the years to come. Between the D-Backs, Giants, and Dodgers, the NL West is going to be a major pitchers’ division.
St8 on HgH
Who can forget that they lost Micah Owings to the Padres? He was huge down the stretch last year as a reliever
Andy Forrester
I definitely think that Owings should have returned, I would give him up for Saito.