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johnsilver
Boston’s own Rich “thrill” Hill probably will be a profitable non tender to either them, or as a trade chip in another couple of months. Very tough on lefties, he seems to have all of his velocity back from his TJ surgery and that new delivery he had come up with prior makes him very nasty.
Someone will come calling if they look for a buyer.
Kevin Pereira
No way.. Sox won’t rely on Morales and Miller as their lefty specialist. They lost Justin Thomas and Pawtucket is all RHP. Nice theory, but it’s unlikely.
johnsilver
If they slip back out of contention they will move him, but if they remain in the playoff hunt he will definitely remain is how that post was supposed to have read.
Hill developed a really nasty curveball and dropped his delivery angle down just before he blew his arm out last season. If he remains healthy, he will be most coveted should he get put on the market.
Kevin Pereira
I don’t think they relinquish him regardless of where they’re at during playoff contention. The man can pitch and they will need him for years to come.
robert
Please, no getting rid of Rich Hill. The man can pitch, and he’s only going to improve with time. Instead, keep him aand go after Mijares.
caseym
The Rays always turn a Non Tender into a useful player. Look at Carlos Pena as a example.
johnsilver
Agree there.. Boston had Pena and wanted the local product to get a chance, but they already had 2 good bats to DH and play 1b ahead of him.. Kevin Youkilis and David Ortiz.. Still glad good guy Pena finally developed and hope he retires as a Ray.. He might have to dump that agent of his to do so however.
robert
A note about Pena. He was on the Sox roster at the end of ’06. He was let go, where he proceeded to hit 41 HR’s the next year with the rival Rays, followed by several more good seasons. As a local product, he was given up to soon. Chalk it up as another Theo blunder.
johnsilver
How was it a blunder?? Was he going to play over Youkilis or ortiz? Move Youk back to 3b and trade Lowel, who at that time was still a productive bat and a good 3b defensively?
Pena then was still unproven and a wild swinger. That theory holds no water of yours.
chico65
Ha ha ha. Hindsight tends to be quite sharp, doesn’t it John? Ted Williams territory sometimes, apparently.
johnsilver
My sentiments exactly Chico. Same with the ones who always blame boston for waiting so long in the 1st place for even bringing up Youk when they had Lowell, Millar, Mueller and ortiz.. It was no wonder Youk was almost 27 before he got a full time job..
A team has powerful bats at positions and you don’t just throw unproven ones into a lineup, even ones like Youk and Pena who eventually become good hitters.
notsureifsrs
exactly. it’s not as if theo ever brought in an underperforming 1B who went on to hit 40 HR
SublimeOne
Wouldn’t Mike Baxter be excluded from this list based on the “New Teams” criteria?
obsessivegiantscompulsive
Actually, the batting line for Keppinger is screwed up on BB-Ref right now. His OPS is actually .461, based on the summing of the games played. The data in the splits area is doubled of his game data, but, of course, still .461 OPS there as well, confirming the games data stats (which you have to sum; the total given there is the incorrect data in his record).
Furthermore, assuming that positive fielding WAR is correct, that cannot be expected to continue, his history is one of stone hands and statue fielding, with severely negative fielding runs “saved”, negating a large portion of the offensive contributions he does make. Not that he’s been that good a hitter, except at hitters parks like Cincy and Houston.
So it looks like the Giants made the right decision to non-tender him. But he seems to be a nice guy, so I hope he does well, wherever he ends up. Just not likely, given his track record.
robert
Not sure Houston is a hitting park, and the Giants could sure use his bat and versatility right now.
buddaley
I am not sure what you are saying. Keppinger’s OPS is .726. He has hit lefties very well to the tune of a .945 OPS. Against righties, he has just a .570 OPS. In fact, he has been a useful player for the Rays.
jalora
It seems completely bizarre that the Giants non-tendered Keppinger and ditched Fontenot to keep Burriss and Theriot. I guess when you really need to save a couple million bucks…
Damon Bowman
You’re underselling Luke Scott. His base from 2011 was $6.4 and if he went to arbitration, it’s a pretty safe bet he would have surpassed $7 million for 2012. While it was an easy call for the Orioles to cut him loose, I still think the Rays overpaid at $5 million for ’12 with a $6 million option for ’13. Scott has to prove he can stay healthy for 140 games to be worth that scratch. He’s only played one season of more than 132 games (2008) and only took the field for 64 in ’11.
ugen64
Even with his injuries, he was generally a >2 WAR player for Baltimore (4 out of 6 seasons). I thought it was a good deal for the Rays because they are generally a very good defensive team, so they can afford to carry a full-time DH / emergency outfielder (and he’s certainly still a better defender than someone like Damon or Vlad).
Damon Bowman
Yes, and no. I see where you’re coming from with the WAR number and that kinda makes sense. But is $5 million on a team payroll of just under $65 million sensible? They’ve got a bunch of talent in the minors in Tampa — why not focus on the youth instead? He’s certainly better than Vlad or Damon at this point, but what about ensuring Joyce, Zobrist, Upton, and Jennings are in the lineup everyday?
0vercast
It appears Mijares is motivated for once.