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rockfordone
Very well run team – pitching and more pitching – name of game – look at those Rays
walt526
As bad as 2012 has been, there’s no way in hell that Lincecum would have been non-tendered this off-season.
hopper15
agreed
BLB25
Totally, and they wouldn’t have save more than 1 or 2 mil in arb at absolute best.
caseym
No mention of Aubrey Huff. I think you overlooked a “BIG” Contract.
Bryce
That wasn’t “this” off season.
Tony DiQuattro
True, probably just wants to remind everyone that they have nearly $30M sunk into Huff, Rowand and Sanchez alone.
55saveslives
Unfair to put Sanchez in there. He balled out until he got hurt diving for a ball.
rainyperez
Huff in hindsight he was coming out of a MVP like season in 2010 and helped them win a World Series in over 56 years.
Sanchez also was integral in 2010 and was rolling just fine until his freak injury in 2011.
The fact that each of those contract’s plus Affeldt’s are gone next season is not much of a worry to Giants fans.
Jason_F
I don’t see a problem with picking up Affeldt’s $5M option.
rainyperez
There is no problem there just mentioning it because of the big amount of money that is coming off the books next year for the team.
BLB25
Yea, I didn’t like the Huff contract at the time, but I understand they kind of had to do it. Its much easier to swallow when you think of it as the Giants still paying him as a thank you for 2010. I wouldn’t be surprised if Affeldt returns, the team loves him and he seems to be happy here. Maybe it won’t be quite as expensive as his last contract, but it’ll probably be close.
rainyperez
I don’t think Affeldt would be worth $5 million again. Maybe sign him to a 2 year $6 million contract. I do agree it seems like he is a staple of the clubhouse and I wouldn’t mind having around especially with that ridiculous curveball he has.
MetsEventually
I can only pray that Wheeler, Harvey and Fulmer would turn out like Cain, Bumgarner and Vogelsong. Just one of them to be like any of them, would be a dream come true.
rainyperez
What’s crazy about the Giants is that Tidrow who oversees their scouting for pitching has a talent for it. They have three pitchers in Clayton Blackburn, Kyle Crick, and Chris Heston in the minors. And of course Wheeler was originally drafted by the Giants.
Will they be like Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, or Vogelsong? Maybe, maybe not. But its undeniable the last couple of years they have a penchant for finding starting pitching gems in the draft.
Arik Goldsmit
Like the way Isringhausen and the guys that came up with him turned out right? But back then it was “would be awesome if they came close to Maddox, Glavine, and Smoltz”.
daddylove
Chris Stratton and Mike Kickham also waiting in the wings. With future closer Heath Hembree. The future is still bright even without Wheeler…at least giants fans hope!
rainyperez
Kickham and Heston look great. Let’s hope Stratton recovers from his concussion.
The real prospect is Crick who has a plus Fastball and curve. I hope he develops a split or a two seamer to compliment his pitching style.
The dark horse is Clayton Blackburn who has amazing control his BB ratio is pretty crazy for a young pitcher.
ramjamrock
Heston is not going to be anything more than a fifth starter at best. He likely profiles as a reliever in the majors. Kickham is intriguing, but could also end up in the bullpen either due to roster crunch or durability issues. Stratton is too far off with too little minor league experience for me to have an opinion. I hope that he recovers well from his concussion and can put together a solid performance next year (hopefully in San Jose, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they start him in Augusta).
Crick has the best chance to be an impact starter of this group, but his walk rate it truly worrisome. He has been walking less batters of late, so hopefully he has turned a corner in his development. We shall have to wait and see next year when he gets to San Jose.
Clayton Blackburn is a player I have been very impressed by thus far, but I worry that he’s another Tim Alderson in the making. He’s definitely a control/finesse pitcher, and they have less room for error as they make their way up the minor league ladder. See: Surkamp, Eric; Tanner, Clayton; Barnes, Scott.
rainyperez
The first two you mention Kickham and Heston may be filler’s but in a rotation filled with Cain, Bumgarner, and yes Lincecum who I think they retain after 2013. The Giants have the luxury of picking and choosing who fills in behind them.
Blackburn is interesting and while you could be right I think the organization will have a better evaluation of him next season.
Kid is still young and has yet to grow into his body so there is potential upside with the development of his pitches.
Crick looks great very raw could e a high a 2 or 3. Then again as with Blackburn he has yet to grow into his body I think they’ll have a better evaluation of him next season.
daddylove
Well, hate to say it but, Brett Bochy is having a great season as reliever and giants drafted a ton of relievers like okert, and stephen johnson who got great reviews. Keep Heston, Escobar, and Justin Fitzgerald as starters as long as possible. I think as Giants fans we have been too spoiled by our elite starters. Some starters take time to blossom.
mistgl
The difference between Blackburn and Surkamp is, Blackburn can actually sit in the 90s. He tops out at 95 and sits in the 90-92 range during starts and maintains that deep into games.
Almost every major prospect junkie has Blackburn pegged with a 2-3 ceiling if the command and velocity remain.