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SethHood422
I could say Swisher is no longer a realistic option for the Braves, but that would be stating the obvious.
monkeydung
1st base for the Dodgers?
monkeydung
(not at $100 MM)
ranbo
Melky being suspended would actually seem to hurt Swisher and the rest of the OF FA class–he’ll still be on the market and he just got a lot cheaper.
Lunchbox45
a team who ends up giving melky a 1 year deal probably wouldn’t be the same type of team looking to give swish 4-5 years. So the melky incident definitely has given the swisher camp more leverage
tao_1977
The Mets will probably scoop up Melky lol
yanksfan2010
Swisher brings a lot of heart and personality to a team.
Since_77
Thanks Nick but next spring I hope they give Zolio Almonte a shot. A switcher with power and some speed (20 hr & 15 sb already with .280 BA). Yanks need to get younger and more athletic.
YanksFanSince78
I like Zolio but he can’t draw a walk (5.3% this year) and strikes out a lot (23.4%) and has never had success about AA. I would like us to take him slowly. Sign Nick to a 3 or 4 yr deal if it’s below $14 mil per and bring Zolio aboard by 2013-2014 as a 4th OF (like we did with Gardner) and see what he does.
levendis
good point about Zolio. Idk about that Swisher deal you suggested. I’d personally prefer Swish to a 3,4 year deal with that kind of money, around 13 mill a year. If the Swish deal means Grandy is out, I’m fine with that. Not such a big fan of Grandy. Hes a very good hitter dont get me wrong, he hits homers, scores runs, and drives people in. However, hes a below .250 hitter, terrible fielder and will only get worse when he loses his speed, strikes out at an alarming rate, doesn’t steal enough bags ( only 8 in the season which is pathetic considering Arod has 10). You gotta take the bad with the good, but not for 16-20 mill a year for 5-6 years. To me it depends at what price BJ Upton can be had. He would obviously be a downgrade with the bat, but he plays good defence, and steals bags. That short field porch will only help though. I feel though that teams will overpay him simply on his potential. I’m really clueless as what he will get this offseason. Maybe sign Swish to your suggested deal and trade Grandy for some prospects, we can use some after all in all disappointing season for the farm. With guys like Tyler Austin and Mason Williams lurking in the minors, cant be locking up these guys to 5 or 6 year deals.
tao_1977
Austin Jackson has 13 HR / 8 3B and a + .300 batting average in a pitcher’s ballpark…me thinks he would have at LEAST 20 HR hitting in Yankee Stadium…plus Austin is 25 and making less than a mil per year…
YanksFanSince78
What’s your point? We shouldn’t have made the trade? I always like Austin and I’m not really shocked that he’s hitting well (a little surprised by the bat avg) but let’s not forget that Grandy is still having a very good year and was having an MVP caliber year in 2011.
tao_1977
my point is…u could’ve gotten most of that production from Austin Jackson at a 1/10th of the cost for the next 5 years…
the yankees historically have done a horrific job of bringing up kids and allowing them to flourish in the NY spotlight…
In terms of players who come up from the minors and stick around to even hit their free-agent years….Since 1980, the yankees have only really had:
(1) 1st Baseman – Don Mattingly
(1) 2nd Baseman – Robinson Cano
(1) SS – Jeter
(0) 3B
(0) LF
(1) CF – Bernie Williams
(0) RF
(1) C – Jorge Posada
(1) SP – Andy Pettite
and this is WITH the deepest pockets in all of baseball…
matteyt
mo?
tao_1977
True Dat…
Slopeboy
Nick Swisher is a fine complimentary player and not much more. He has a good eye at the plate and knows when to take a walk. He hits to all fields and has enough power that he can hit homers in any moderate sized ballpark. He kills mediocre pitching and only good pitchers give him trouble. That’s why he struggles in the post season.
His fielding leaves a lot to be desired, while his UZR may not be terrible, it does not truly reflect his play in the outfield. His poor approach to flyballs in play and his inaccurate and pop gun arm are often over looked when compiling his WAR stats, so much so ,that they’re misleading. The only time he’ll see a Gold Glove is in someone’s trophy case
Swisher is nowhere near a 100MM ball player, he will do well to get an offer that exceeds what Carlos Beltran received from the Cardinals last season. Possibly 3 years for $45MM or 4 for $48MM, but probably nothing for 5 yrs, and certainly nothing near 100MM. Take him out of a potent line-up like the Yanks’,and he becomes just another average bat in the line-up.
YanksFanSince78
.251/.361/.464 w/ an average of 26 hrs in his last 3 seasons in Oakland with teams that ranked 7th overall in WAR those 3 years and was w/o Giambi and Tejada playing half his games in a notoriously pitcher friendly stadium.
Slopeboy
Those are decent enough numbers for a fine complimentary player that expects to be a regular in the everyday line-up. Those numbers hardly warrant the expectations for a $100MM contract or anything remotely close.
YanksFanSince78
Sorry, let me be clear. He is NOT worth $100 mil and I expressed that on a separate post. However, he is not just a product of NYS or their lineup. He was a good hitter before and a good hitter now.
If I were the Yanks I would offer him about the same deal they offered Damon and Matsui years ago. 4/$52-4/56. Not too much more than what he made this year but more security.
Slopeboy
we’re pretty much on the same page. As I said, he hits everywhere, so YS is not what’s made him, as others have incorrectly claimed.While I would not miss him if he left, if he signed at what you’re proposing, that would be fair.
jjs91
“He kills mediocre pitching and only good pitchers give him trouble. That’s why he struggles in the post season.” Do you have anything to actually back this up? Off the top of my head he has done well vs price, halladay, and lee. The real reason he struggles in the postseason is the same reason other players struggle mostly sample size.
Slopeboy
@jj91
There are three years worth of post season at bats against different teams, where Swisher has yet to live up to his regular stats. The real reason players struggle in the post is mostly that they face better pitching. Off the top of my head, I’m betting his post season batting sample size is much larger than than the pitchers you’ve mentioned. Check it out.
jjs91
It’s more like 38 gm worth of stats and some of those gms were against awful pitchers that shut him out. He has good sample size vs wilson, weaver, AND GRIENKE, and has done well but i guess i can break down the pitchers who he struggled against in the playoffs in a day or two.
throwitback85
I said this is in the previous posting, but Swisher should be looking at Andre Ethier’s five-year, $85 million contract as a more realistic comparison.
Tommet
The mets really need a guy like Swisher. A veteran player who brings a lot of personality to a team. He’ll give them a lot of spirit and a good bat as well. Plus he’s an upgrade from Duda in RF
Slopeboy
@Tom Gioia
I agree whole heartedly but, that would be possible only if no one not makes a serious bid for Swisher. Even then, it’s doubtful the Mets would offer any kind of money that he’s looking to get. The Mets payroll is supposed to be $90MM next year, which doesn’t leave much room for Swisher .Six players eat up a disproportionate amount of that budget, which leaves very little wiggle room for Alderson to sign worthy players.
Santana- $25MM
Dickey- $5MM
Francisco-$6MM
Niese- $3MM
Bay- $16MM
Wright- $16MM
That’s roughly $71MM in just 6 players. Unless they up the payroll or Swisher wants to play in NY, REAL cheap,the Mets are not going to sign him
tao_1977
The limiting factor with the mets are the wilpons…not those players…
the mets only have 3 guys making 10 mil or more….with 2 of those 3 contracts coming off the books in 2013, its embarrassing that they never even offered beltran or reyes a contract this offseason…
there is no guarentee they resign wright….johan and bay will DEF be off the books…and 1B/2B/SS/C along with 3-4 SP will all be homegrown and pre-arb or in their 1st arb years…
the committed payroll for 2014 is somewhere around 20 mil…not saying that THIS crop of free-agents is worth it…but resigning Reyes, resigning Beltran, moving Tejada to 2B, moving Wright to the OF…and moving Murphy to 3B would’ve resulted in a much more competitive team for 2012-2013…
IMO they do not have the cojones to trade or resign Wright…they will simply let him walk and then blame him for being greedy
AmericanMovieFan
I want to see him stay a Yankee, but to do that his demands have to come down tremendously, possibly to 3 years/$36MM or so. I could see the Yanks possibly being generous and signing him to 4 years/$52MM, which would be reasonable, maybe going as high as $60MM if the market for him exploded, but this $100MM+ talk is ludicrous, much as I love the guy.
diehardmets
If anybody gives him more than $60MM, that’s a major mistake. I imagine the Dodgers might overpay and go to $75MM to solve there 1B situation.
wesman94
Either got 5/85 and I think he could definitely get somewhere close to that. Like 4/65-75 with an option.
AmericanMovieFan
Nobody mentions the Giants. They need power, they’re losing Melky, Swish is good for the outfield and first base and they did give Rowand that insane 5 year/$60MM deal. Swisher is better than Rowand and undoubtedly more durable with more consistent power. He’ll get a lot of long doubles and produce his average number of HR’s thanks to the short-ish porch in right field going out into the bay.
tesseract
So he has played regularly since 2005 and has the same age when Werth signed his $126 MM contract. Since when did that become a good enough reason to sign for $100 MM plus?
bleacherdude
Swisher should sign a 7-year 105m contract with the Reds.
Joe 74
only 11 months in Nicks calendar……….he sleeps right through October