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stroh
As a long-time Astros fan, I would welcome Lance back. He can be a great mentor to the young guys, just as Bagwell and Biggio were mentors to Lance and Roy when they were coming up. Plus, Lance is from Houston, and will always be an Astro. Would be great to see him back in the orange and blue.
Leonard Washington
If his legs are healthy I would love to have him in Boston, but your def right. It would be nice to see him back with the stros.
go_jays_go
I just read Ken Rosenthal’s article. He suggests that the Rays should trade Hellickson because he is the only pitcher that is currently represented by Boras, and thus is least likely to sign a friendly long term deal.
Real good thing Rosenthal is not a GM.
Hodor 2
He’s right though. You won’t see Hellickson sign any Moore/Longoria type deals with Boras around. Hellickson for either Hosmer or Profar.
Mark 27
I dont think you’d be able to get either for just Hellickson, especially Profar, a switch-hitting SS with power potential.
go_jays_go
1) 3 arb years of Hellickson is way cheaper than 3 year of free agency of James Shields….
2) Hellickson is going to enter his prime. Shields is exiting his prime.
3) Right now, Shields is more valuable than Hellickson on the trade market.
It makes ZERO sense to trade Hellickson before Shields.
Howard
This is a better idea for DH than going after Napoli as predicted.
jwsox
Napoli is much better suited for that role than lance, lance has done it and failed, Nap has been a DH and been fine plus he offers the potential to allow the 1st basemen and catcher days off
astromariner
As an Astro fan it would be awesome to get Berkman back. He should retire an Astro. How awesome would it be if we got him and Napoli. Berkman can switch between 1B and DH while Napoli could alternate between catching, 1B and DH. If we did that and got some avg or maybe above avg starter (whom would be our ace, lol) we could have a much improved team while not spending a ton. Probably won’t all happen but would be nice and help put more butts in the seats.
stroh
My guess is that they won’t go after Napoli. I think they’ll sign Berkman who will rotate with Brett Wallace at 1B and DH, and sign another outfielder, maybe someone such as Jonny Gomes, Scott Hairston or Grady Sizemore. They want guys at 1 year contracts, who won’t block guys like Jonathan Singleton and George Springer who will be ready by 2014.
astromariner
I have to agree with you, especially after Bogusevic and Shuck just elected FA. Neither one of them were really starting material but just creates a bigger hole in the OF. Taking a chance on Sizemore wouldn’t be a bad idea if we can get him relatively cheap. He may be a small risk but could still have some decent upside left in him. I can see Hairston or Gomes fitting our needs as well.
jwsox
why dont the Rays trade both? And I’m being serious here, they are stacked at pitching. Trade Shields and get a ton of salary relief (use it to extend longo) and get a solid prospect back in return(not great, the true advantage is salary relief) and Trade heckilson for a beast of a prospect….Rangers for Profar maybe?
DerangedAngry Hilbilly
I don’t think you can get THAT big of a prospect for Hellickson with his k rate around 6.3 and a BB rate around 3 and a 1+ WAR for each of the last 2 years.(plus he struggled a bit to stay in games) sure he’s young and under control. But he’s not really a dynamic pitcher. He might net a team a top ten prospect, but I doubt he nets you a teams number 1
jwsox
Top ten is still a great grab
GrayhawkAZ
in 2 years, ROY and Gold Glove before reaching his prime (which for a pitcher is generally around 27 years old).. Before he reaches arbitration.. He has done it already.. Any prospect, including Profar, hasn’t done it on the MLB level
DerangedAngry Hilbilly
sorry, a 1 WAR pitcher just isn’t worth a teams number one prospect. MAYBE hellickson develops into a 4 WAR guy, but aside from his short stint in 2010, he hasn’t been that guy yet.
caseym
Extend Longo? He is already in middle of a 10 year contract!
Salary relief only for Shields? We should get at least 3-4 prospects he has another option on his contract.and he is a bargain number 1 at only 10.25 million with a 12.5 million option for 2014. Hellickson should fetch 4-5 near MLB ready prospects alone. He is cheap and who cares if he is a Boras client he is still under team control for another 4 years.
withpower
I realize Tampa has a limited payroll and attendance issues and they need to maximize returns on players they aren’t likely to re-sign [especially now that they aren’t picking so high in the draft these days] but I would think it makes the most sense to keep both of them and go after some hitters.
They have the pitching to win a title right now and I don’t think you could draw up a better set of circumstances regarding the respective situations of their division opponents.
sherrilltradedooverexperience
I agree with you but would add that Shields may be up for trade based on how many innings they’ve rode that arm the past two seasons 477 innings with 14 cg’s. He may be cut short next season and lost due to injury after so much work.
With Price rebounding from a mediocre year this is going to be one heck of a lot younger and cheaper pitching staff of Hellickson, Price, Moore, Cobb, and Archer
Frank 16
Trade Hellikson to Cubs fr Soriano (cubs eat most salary) and Brett Jackson. Trade James Shields for young pitching…trade for 2B Justin Turner…sign C AJ and DH Berkman 1B Loney..sign SP Haren
Lineup- Jackson Jennings Zobrist Longoria AJ Soriano Berkman Loney Turner/Roberts..rotation: Price Moore Cobb Haren Niemen/Archer/Davis (bring in someone on minor league deal 2 to compete)
Kevin Swords
Cubs make that trade in a heartbeat. That said, the Rays will want more than Soriano for Hellickson (Brett Jackson isn’t a premium prospect).
GasLampGuru
I think the best and most logical fit for Dan Haren is San Diego. He would benefit from pitching in a pitchers park (it will still play that way with the fences coming in), facing NL lineups, and working with arguably one of the best two or three pitching coaches in baseball (Darren Ballsley). He should come cheap after last season, and will probably wind up on a one year deal to rebuild value. I’d throw him a one year, $9M deal and see where it goes.
PlaidArmour
Again, Haren has slightly worse numbers in the NL. Even with the Angels in interleague play against the NL his numbers were worse than in regular league play. San Diego would only be an advantage because of Petco.
Amish_willy
Haren’s two best years came with the Dbacks in ’08 & ’09. Regardless where he’s playing next year he’s a serious rebound candidate. Going back to the NL West, with three great pitching parks and a excellent history at one of the other parks seems ideal for both player and team.