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Frittoman626 2
I would like Santana if it were for a non-guaranteed minor league contract and a Spring Training Invite. Could battle for the fifth starter spot with Pineda, Phelps, Nuno, and Warren. I prefer Phelps in the bullpen and Pineda to go to the minors and work on his control. It’s a low risk seeing as they could just release Santana if he injures himself again or he just outright sucks.
GD
Pineda to the minors to work on control, AND a 3rd pitch!
Kayrall
Verlander has put so many innings on that arm every year. I hope he can come back to full form.
kungfucampby
The CBA discourages a lot of 2 sport athletes from playing baseball. Which is a real shame.
pft2
Not sure its the CBA. In NBA and NFL you can be drafted and start in the NBA and NFL right away. In baseball you spend a couple of years in the minors. Financially, MLB is a better sport than the NFL if you make it big, due to the guaranteed contracts, but even top 20 draft picks are not guaranteed to make it big, and then of course, you have to wait 3 years before you make more than the minimum. Perhaps that what you are alluding to. MLB teams also have a tendency to hold players back to maximize their 6 years cost control so players don’t make it to free agency till they are 30 and then are labelled as being in decline
Ferrariman
on the flip side though, a MLB players’s playing life is substantially longer (and generally more productive per year) than that of an NBA player and especially an NFL where some guys are washed up at 30.
Paul Shailor
This is true however most just look at short term value. Sure if you are a pitcher and stay healthy you can go until you are 40 in some cases(esp if you are a reliever). However if you go to the NBA or NFL you get a ton more endorsement opportunities at a younger age and more money at a younger age.
Ben Roth
I believe he was referencing the slot values, which scarcely allow for overpayments, allowing for other sports to field more competitive offers and potentially steering them away from baseball.
kungfucampby
Yup that was what I was referring to.
LazerTown
A big part is that he may have a better shot in NFL to make it. Many first round picks dont make it in mlb, nfl they have instant impact.
You often have a better shot at making the few million you need to live your life in the NFL if you are at the top.
pft2
Core surgery is pretty vague. If its a hernia or oblique they can be tricky, If he pitches w/o his core 100% he risks arm injury since he would have to use his arm more to generate the velocity. Tigers might regret trading Fister now. Might need to jump in on Tanaka like they did with Fielder when V-Mart got injured.
Matlock
Best option for brewers is trading for carp, signing jeff baker, and platooning them at 1b
Novak
I don’t think it really pays for them. The slight upgrade they’d gain at 1B over what they have already wouldn’t be worth the value given up, since it doesn’t come close to pushing them over the top contention-wise.
daveineg
They can be competitive Novak and that’s their goal. If by pushing over the top, you mean assuring playoff spot, then dream on. That’s not the real world for 90% of the league. If Khris Davis and Gennett perform close to what they did in Aug-Sept, it’s a solid lineup everywhere but 1B. Francisco/Halton combined at the very least would provide power there. I’d favor signing Michael Young myself, to play both at 1B and give them a better option when resting Ramirez and overall upgrading the 25 man roster. That won’t push them over the top either, but it would add another guy that if they don’t contend, they can move later on.
Sage
Interesting concept, and I like the idea of signing Jeff Baker. He’d be a good right-handed half of a platoon. The only problem is that the price on Carp is probably going to be rather high. I’d rather trade less for a guy like Smoak or even just stick with Juan Francisco (ugh, can’t believe I’m actually saying that) and platoon that lefty with signing Baker. But I definitely think signing Baker and having a platoon at 1B is not a bad idea for us right now.
orbrewer
A platoon of Baker/Carp is a such a minor upgrade over the platoon the Brewers will likely use next season (Halton/Francisco), unless the Sox are willing to give up Carp for a non-prospect minor leaguer, it doesn’t make sense for the Brewers.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
“Right now, we’re just going to [fill the bullpen] internally,” said Melvin, “unless that changes.”
An impossible statement to dispute! I see a career in politics ahead…
orbrewer
I thought that was a great quote also.
“It’s going to be the same, unless it’s different.”
Korflock
Mariners?
phillies1102
“…Justin Verlander underwent successful core muscle surgery in Philadelphia this morning.”
I think that was the first and last time I’ve heard Verlander and Philadelphia used in the same sentence.
Tigers72
I hope The Tigers get Johan.
Tigers72
I hope The Tigers get Johan.
Zak A
What’s a rookie deal for the # 1 overall pick in the NFL? like 5 years 28 MM? I think he’ll stick to football.
suomynona
Why are the Mariners tagged in this? (Just making sure I didn’t miss anything.)