Maybe I just don’t understand the rule, someone can explain it to me. How is a player allowed to ask for his release to sign a major league deal with another team? That would mean he obviously had conversations with the Astros while under contract with San Diego. Is a player allowed to do that because he is on a minor league contract?
Rally Weimaraner
Not every MiLB contract is the same. MiLB contracts for former MLB players often contain provision allowing them to discuss MLB deals with other clubs and the right to request or be granted their released if they find an MLB contract. It really depends on the individual contract.
Sometimes contacts have a soft op-out date (meaning a player can op-out if they have found an MLB deal by a certain date), sometimes its a formal op-out (player can op-out regardless of finding an MLB deal at a certain date) and sometime players are simply allowed to discuss potential MLB deals (this sounds like what Sipp had since he had to request his release).
There are also type XX(B) free agents in which opt-out dates are mandated as per league rules.
Rally Weimaraner
Your correct regarding type XX(B) FA who sign MiLB deals but that clearly did not come into play here.
Per CBA an Article XX-B MLB free-agent signs a minor league contract at least ten days prior to MLB Opening Day, and then is either not released by 12 PM (Eastern) on the 5th day prior to MLB Opening Day or added to an MLB Active List (25-man roster) or MLB Disabled List by 3 PM (Eastern) on MLB Opening Day, the player automatically receives a $100,000 retention bonus, and the player can unilaterally opt-out of the minor league contract on June 1st if he has not been added to an MLB Active List (25-man roster) or an MLB Disabled List by that date.
It is neither opening day nor June 1st so clearly this provision played no role here.
I was trying to add on to your comment to help the OP’s understanding of the situation.
tesseract
After a guy has player in the Bigs or after 7 years in the minor he signs a minor league free agent contract which allows him to do just that
Shane 2
And because he has major league experience it is worded into his contract that he can bolt if he gets offer a major league contract
davengmusic
Well…considering the Astros bullpen, he can’t be any worse, right?
RIGHT??
JayKay
Don’t worry guys, he along with the rest of the filler-players are just here until the prospects are ready. Could take a year, or fifty but hey it is what it is.
texasfury93
Is Crain’s DL retroactive to 3/21?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Bass, Guzman, Qualls and now Sipp. The Astros sure like them some former Padres.
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Ron Loreski
Maybe I just don’t understand the rule, someone can explain it to me. How is a player allowed to ask for his release to sign a major league deal with another team? That would mean he obviously had conversations with the Astros while under contract with San Diego. Is a player allowed to do that because he is on a minor league contract?
Rally Weimaraner
Not every MiLB contract is the same. MiLB contracts for former MLB players often contain provision allowing them to discuss MLB deals with other clubs and the right to request or be granted their released if they find an MLB contract. It really depends on the individual contract.
Sometimes contacts have a soft op-out date (meaning a player can op-out if they have found an MLB deal by a certain date), sometimes its a formal op-out (player can op-out regardless of finding an MLB deal at a certain date) and sometime players are simply allowed to discuss potential MLB deals (this sounds like what Sipp had since he had to request his release).
Alex Andreopoulos
There are also type XX(B) free agents in which opt-out dates are mandated as per league rules.
Rally Weimaraner
Your correct regarding type XX(B) FA who sign MiLB deals but that clearly did not come into play here.
Per CBA an Article XX-B MLB free-agent signs a minor league contract at least ten days prior to MLB Opening Day, and then is either not released by 12 PM (Eastern) on the 5th day prior to MLB Opening Day or added to an MLB Active List (25-man roster) or MLB Disabled List by 3 PM (Eastern) on MLB Opening Day, the player automatically receives a $100,000 retention bonus, and the player can unilaterally opt-out of the minor league contract on June 1st if he has not been added to an MLB Active List (25-man roster) or an MLB Disabled List by that date.
It is neither opening day nor June 1st so clearly this provision played no role here.
Alex Andreopoulos
I was trying to add on to your comment to help the OP’s understanding of the situation.
tesseract
After a guy has player in the Bigs or after 7 years in the minor he signs a minor league free agent contract which allows him to do just that
Shane 2
And because he has major league experience it is worded into his contract that he can bolt if he gets offer a major league contract
davengmusic
Well…considering the Astros bullpen, he can’t be any worse, right?
RIGHT??
JayKay
Don’t worry guys, he along with the rest of the filler-players are just here until the prospects are ready. Could take a year, or fifty but hey it is what it is.
texasfury93
Is Crain’s DL retroactive to 3/21?
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
Bass, Guzman, Qualls and now Sipp. The Astros sure like them some former Padres.