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Rally Weimaraner
Lee seems to have primarily left off clubs he knows can’t afford his contract. He will have significant leverage in any trade discussion. His no trade clause coupled with his recent injury may make him immovable.
Light_tower_power
It is kinda funny the Mets are grouped mostly with small market teams….The Wilpon’s magic coming through
Phillyfan425
Nah, it’s a division thing. He knows the Phillies would be hard pressed to trade him to a team within the division.
Rally Weimaraner
It may have something to do with the fact that the Mets are spending like a small market team…. Wilpon sure is doing a good job impersonating a small market team.
Look Its Placido Polanco
He won’t be moved unless he wants to, so in that he way he is unmovable if he chooses. But I don’t think the injury will be a factor. He looks healthy but rusty last night – that should rectify itself.
Scott Berlin
They can move him to a small market team if the Phillies at some contract but Amaro said he probably wont eat any. If they don’t then that alone counts out the small teams.
Look Its Placido Polanco
Rosenthal’s article yesterday said they would eat money. They’d be crazy not to.
Scott Berlin
Yeah at this point they have to it would interest more teams to drive competition for a higher package return.
Phillyfan425
I’d have to imagine that in order to be traded to a team on his no-trade list, Cliff is going to want his 2016 option guaranteed. If that’s the case, that’s $60 M over 2.33 seasons. If the Phils ate, say $15-25 M of that, I think they could move him for some good pieces (make him about a $15-19 M AAV pitcher). Again, this is assumed he comes back looking better in his next start (honestly, I was just hoping he made it through start 1 with no pain/discomfort – start 2 is the one where I actually want to see his stuff).
Karkat
I was pretty critical of Amaro Jr for not trading Lee at last year’s deadline, and I’m even MORE critical now. I refuse to believe they didn’t have multiple quality offers for Lee at that time, all of which will have been FAR better than the return they could get for him now.
Scott Berlin
Last year many teams would have ate most or all of his contract and gave top prospects, at this point I doubt anyone would do either. A team may offer 2 or 3 middling prospects and eat some contract. The fact that he’s a question mark now with $48million left plus an option will leave most teams uninterested. If he was younger one might figure he could bounce back with a resilient body but at 35 it’s hard to say how long if ever he needs to get back in the groove. At this point the Phillies might as well see how he does and trade him on waivers after the deadline but they’d still be selling low.
stl_cards16
I’m pretty sure Lee cleared waivers last August. So no team was even willing to take on his full contract, let alone part with multiple top prospects.
Edit: I was wrong, Lee was claimed by the Dodgers last August. Still not many teams had interest in his full contract when healthy. He’ll surely be an August trade candidate this year.
VAR
I can’t imagine any other major market that wouldn’t have run RAJ out of town on a rail by now. General Managing through denial doesn’t seem to be a solid leadership practice.
VAR
Had the Phillies moved him last season at the break, they would have gotten a haul. They may still get something for him if he pitches well in his next start. RA really dropped the ball on this one.
MB923
Same goes for the Padres with Headley.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Yeah, trade Lee to the Astros!
Get the Popcorn, would I. =P
disadvantage 2
I don’t know… do they have what it takes to outbid the Twins?
Seriously though, even though Cliff Lee seems like a great guy, watching any player with loopholes in his contract get exploited would be great fun.
Karl Larson
Contrary to popular belief, they are not a “small market team” anymore. The Twins have the money and the prospects to make the trade happen, but they are in full rebuilding mode at the moment. It’s a great pipe dream for Twins fans everywhere though.
DarthMurph
At this rate, the Phillies’ biggest deadline move should be Amaro’s termination.
stl_cards16
Every year he makes it through is another lost year that could be spent turning the team around. They’ll need 3 years after Amaro is gone to be relevant again.
BusterMaloney
This is only his second “lost year” so it is hardly fair to suggest this has been an ongoing issue with him.
That said, he hardly seems like the best man for the job in Philadelphia given his years of antagonism towards advanced metrics that eventually came around to haunt him and his inability to read a market, and his poor ability to judge minor league talent.
KJ4realz
Honestly, if a team in the division came with a good offer of prospects, I would trade Lee to any one of them. Not really sure what anyone in the division has as I’m not too familiar with their farms, but Lee doesn’t have too many years left so it’s not like Lee pitching for a divisonal rival is going to prevent the team from going to the post season in the next two or so years.
The team is, depending on what they can acquire in trades (money, close to mlb level specs) the team isn’t going to compete any earlier than 3 seasons from now anyway.
Hamels is about the only player on the roster I wouldn’t want going to a rival.
Karl Larson
That’s not the list I would have come up with in his situation. Either the teams listed can’t afford his contract, they are rebuilding, or both. Sounds like he will stay in Philly.
teddy
The idea is that any potential suitors that the phillies would actually trade him too, Lee has a choice of weather to approve a trade to said team or dissaprove if he does’t want to go there. So basically he can control where he goes.
DarthMurph
That’s the point. He basically has a full NTC.
Alexander_Brovechkin
Nationals could afford his contract but the Phils won’t trade him to a division rival.