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jpkinney7
Jason Hammel is definitely available for a 2b.
Rally Weimaraner
Throw in Tommy Milone, who recently requested a trade, and you can have Grant Green back.
Cabro Epico
lol
baxter322
Lee’s vesting option kicks in with 200 innings in 2014 or 400 in 2014-2015, not with 200 in 2015. He’s highly unlikely to trigger that option but his 12.5 buyout makes paying 15 more to have him that year look reasonable.
Rally Weimaraner
This season will likely be the first time in 9 years Cliff Lee fails to pitch 200+ innings, how is his option highly unlikely to trigger?
Steve Adams
The option kicks in with 200 IP in 2015, not 2014 (per Cot’s, B-Ref and a report from Crasnick this morning).
It would make no sense for 200 innings in 2014 to trigger a 2016 option. He could blow out his UCL on Opening Day next year and still be guaranteed $27.5MM.
sourbob
If the Yankees do decide to acquire another SP, Jackson makes a ton of sense. Yes, he’s having an awful season by surface stats. But like their last pickup, McCarthy, he looks better by FIP and xFIP. And the Yanks are said to be loathe to deal young talent. They’d rather pick up a not great contract. If the Yanks agreed to take on even half of Jackson’s remaining deal, they could probablybhave him for next to nothing in terms of players.
It’s notnas sexy as Price or Hamels, but given that their odds are looking shaky, it would be a less risky use of resources.
DarthMurph
What do the Cubs get out of that? They don’t really need salary relief.
Dynasty22
They don’t need it but I don’t think they would be opposed to it. Better places to use 13 million dollars than on Edwin Jackson.
DarthMurph
Agreed, but I don’t think they’ll pay to send him away for nothing in return.
Thechairman66
$13M isn’t nothing. Even in baseball. I think what you’re trying to say is, Jackson is worth more than the $13M to the Cubs.
jon 29
yeah but nevertheless, a waste of resources. when you were on baseball reference, did you happen to see what edwin’s been doing the past 2 years? frankly, he’s terrible…good luck with that.
Rally Weimaraner
I wounder if the Phillies would be more open to trading Hamels if a team agreed to take on Lee and Papelbon’s contracts as well. It would be a difficult trade to negotiate but the Miami/Toronto and Boston/LAD trades were similarly unthinkable at the time.
Bleed_Orange
If that option became available they would have to jump on it. I just can’t think of a team who would be willing to take that kind of a financial hit. I guess the Yankees maybe if they are desperate to make a run this year.
Aron
Yeah, I just don’t think any team out there can afford to add 60 million dollars in payroll additions for 2015 with just the addition of 3 players, not even counting the total amount that each player will be due by the end of their contracts which is roughly 200+ million dollars with those classic RAJ vesting options. Especially with one pretty much useless bull pen arm. A top ten pitcher who is aging and may be regressing now and then one ace who is worth his money but not the addition of two horrible contracts. When the Jays made the trade with Miami they gave up some good prospects for guys that were atleast close to to worth their contracts. Reyes is definitely still worth the money even if he has declined. Buerlhe has easily been worth it too and then JJ only had the one year so even though he was awful it didn’t hurt too much
The_Sports_Dude
I’ve given up trying to understand Amaro’s thought process.
rct 2
Colon’s stock is probably on the downswing again. After a brilliant stretch of 7 starts where he went 6-0 with a 1.58 ERA in 51.1 innings, he’s had 4 average-to-bad starts (0-3, 5.88 ERA in 26 innings). Still an innings eater, though, as he averages 6.2 innings per start, but I don’t think I’d call his 85 ERA+ ‘above-average innings’.
Scott Richmond
Why no mention of Dillon Gee? Mets are out of it, he is a good middle of the rotation option and is controllable for his new team.
Steve Adams
All reports out of the New York media sphere suggest that the Mets aren’t really willing to trade anyone with long-term value to the club, even Daniel Murphy, who’s only controlled through next year.
Gee strikes me as pretty unlikely, even more so than some of the people on this list that I noted were probably staying put.
Scott Richmond
Gee would be #5 on the SP depth chart for the Mets come ST ’15.
Harvey
Niese
Wheeler
Colon
Gee
Syndergaard
DeGrom
Montero
Hefner
Ynoa?
Others…
The Mets have a plethora of options. Gee is expendable, desirable and should bring back a nice player or two. If he is not shopped now then the offseason will see him widely checked.
rct 2
Harvey’s coming back from TJ, Colon could be gone, Niese has had injuries, Wheeler is no sure thing, Syndergaard has yet to pitch in the majors, deGrom and Montero are rookies, Hefner has been injured and wasn’t anything special to begin with, and Ynoa is a complete unknown with only 4 starts above single A.
I mean, I love the Mets’ pitching depth, but keeping Gee makes plenty of sense (especially in light of my comment above about selling low).
rct 2
Not to mention that Gee has had several injuries in his career and just made his worst start this season after coming off the DL. Were the Mets to trade him now, they’d probably be selling low.
Guest 3691
Chris Rusin, Luis Valbuena, Carlos Villanueva for Milone.
BlueSkyLA
Great article! This is the kind of stuff that brings me to MLBTR.
DippityDoo
Indeed.
briankoke
Great look at who could be available. How about a complete list of teams who might be in the market for these guys?
Glenn O'Brien
With Matt Cain who knows how long he’ll be out Yes I’m aware they put him on the 15 day DL but heard he could have bone chips in his elbow. wonder who the Giants might target for a SP to replace him.
jawilli31
Although the Angels might be done after trading for Street, I still say they need a mid-rotation ideal, bargain at that, to add and slide Skaggs to the 5th spot of protecting his rookie season IP. Here’s my rank within that list above:
1. Colon (he’s the best one for them, like it or not)
2. Correia (the guys gives and gives, love him)
3. Kendrick (experienced and has had some post-season time with the Phils)
4. De La Rosa (lefty, consistent, and can never go wrong with having too many of them in a rotation, although the Halos have 2 or 3 already, depending upon what they decide with Santiago).