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MB923
” David Lennon of Newsday tweets that the Red Sox and Rays both received permission from their owners to trade their left-handed aces to any team in baseball, with one exception: the Yankees”
Shocking!!
Karkat
No aces for you :V
MB923
Hehe. Nope. Until Tanaka gets back.
robbyb
2016 should be a great year…
Scott Berlin
The Yankees could sign Lester. But lets see if Detroit keeps Scherzer and Price.
MB923
Guess you haven’t heard about his rehab as of now being successful.
robbyb
His 50 throws from 60 feet.. that is a successful rehab as of now… We can continue this conversation in SEP/ OCT timeframe.. or when he goes in for TJ..
MB923
There’s a reason I wrote as of now
robbyb
me too…
Mikenmn
Victorino illustrates the other side of the Red Sox strategy of shorter term contracts. If you are going to sign someone to a three year deal, the cost of an injury year doesn’t have as much time to amortize. Net net, I think it works, especially when everything goes well for you at the same time, as it did for the Sox in 2013.
108 stitches 2
Ehh….he took care of his contract with 6+ WAR last year. At least close to it. Thank god he’s not signed through 2017.
DarthMurph
The Sox knew what they were getting themselves into with Victorino. He was hot when they needed him to be. This year is unfortunate, but we’ll remember the 2013 WS a lot longer than we’ll remember the 30 games he played this year.
Karkat
We were more than just a healthy Victorino away from winning this year anyway (although it sure would’ve helped)
DarthMurph
Very true. I dislike the notion that people will call the Victorino contract a failure, even though it was pretty much entirely validated by last year. You sign players to win rings. If they win rings, what they do in years where the team isn’t as good isn’t as important.
Karkat
I mean, a six year deal where the player helps the team win in the first year and then injured/bad for the remaining years would still feel pretty bad. It all depends on how long an aging/declining player hurts your overall makeup, and in Victorino’s case, it can’t possibly end up too poorly, given 2013.
DarthMurph
Right. It’s certainly contextual and the value of a WS win doesn’t have a direct translation to WAR or any other stat. But you sign players to win rings.
Mikenmn
i agree, but the strategy is useful only when it works–when you win, and you can afford the spend. It’s much harder for a team with lesser resources to take a $39M chance on a 30+ year old outfielder who relies on his legs.
DarthMurph
Agreed. If we had no ring out of this, the contract would look pretty bad right about now.
Devern Hansack
Even by a WAR standpoint, it’s still not a bad contract. The cost of a marginal win is about seven million dollars. He was worth 39.2 million last year alone. It’s not a lot of surplus value if he has injury problems moving forward, but breaking even and getting a title was well worth it.
NomarGarciaparra
It doesn’t matter what Victorino did this year or next. What Victorino did last year was enough to cover his contract!
dc21892
On the bright side Victorinos surgery went well according to his Instagram. Now he just has to rehab like crazy and I’m sure he will bounce back and be an integral part in turning this ship in the right direction next season.