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OBomb
At the very least, the Padres could’ve named that plaza in Petco Park after Trevor Hoffman, not Bud Selig.
disadvantage 2
Petit retired 46 (!) straight batters… then gave up a hit to the pitcher Jordan Lyles.
Oh baseball, you work in mysterious ways.
Phillyfan425
I’ve said it before, and I’m sure – in the upcoming offseason – I’ll say it again.
If I’m the Phillies, I make an offer of Byrd and Bastardo to the Giants for Lincecum, two of Ty Blach/Clayton Blackburn/Chris Stratton, and Gary Brown. The ask for two of those AA starters may seem a lot, but I’d imagine Bastardo for Brown could be reasonable (straight up) – which would have been impossible to think that 2 years ago, when Gary Brown for Hunter Pence seemed an impossible ask for the Phils. So Byrd for two of those AA kids AND taking on Lincecum’s money is probably fair.
Byrd could replace Morse. Bastardo could (essentially) replace Casilla (who would be replacing Romo). Meanwhile, on the Phillies side, they would be getting back a pair of good starting pitching prospects at AA (from an organization that has done a good job developing pitchers), and a flyer in Brown. Taking on Lincecum’s salary would hurt – but it would only be for 1 year.
SFGiantsfan_10
If the Giants trade Lincecum, then riots will break out in Willie Mays Plaza. I’m not saying trading Lincecum isn’t a bad idea, just that the FO would never do it in order to avoid the PR nightmare that would follow.
Dock_Elvis
I think there’s a better chance the Giants move Romo and install Lincecum as closer
SFGiantsfan_10
Or they just let Romo walk after this season.
Phillyfan425
I get that. I’d imagine it’d be like that (for a large majority of the fan base) had we traded Chase Utley after 2012.
Dock_Elvis
Phillies need to shed bad contracts, not acquire more. They have Ken Giles to close and some solid potential setup men. I don’t view Lincecum as more than a four starter….
Phillyfan425
Phillies need to improve their minor league system (specifically their starting pitching for next year and beyond). If they can do that while having to add a guy like Lincecum for a year (who yes, I’m slotting in as a starter), I’d jump on that in a heartbeat. I’d acquire 8 contracts like Lincecum if it could get us an equal number of prospects – because they are just 1 year deals (and I’m shooting for 2016).
I see 2015 as a semi-lost year (running out the same “core” – Jimmy, Chase, Howard, Chooch, & Hamels – with different supporting players). If they start out hot, great. If not, you trade away some of the veteran pieces that have good value at the deadline. Although, I should note – this isn’t the only move I have the Phillies making.
Dock_Elvis
All true. Just so many unmovable contracts. Not that the Lincecum deal happens, but it’s not a bad idea theoretically…. veteran innings eater. I just don’t see the Giants incentive…they will have the same need. Phils might have to deal from the rotation. I saw Hamels for Joc Pedersen mentioned
Phillyfan425
Giants incentive is that they save $6 M next season (Byrd and Bastardo would combine for about $11.5 M – Lincecum is making $17.5 M). Giants are (supposedly) tight on funds, so a trade that nets them $6 M is probably good for them (they may be able to spend that toward Pablo or a 4/5 starter if they feel Crick isn’t ready yet).
Phillies have no rotation right now. It’s Cole Hamels – that’s it. After that, we have question marks about Lee (health) and AJ (retiring?). Buchanan has shown to be a passable 5th starter, and Jerome Williams could be brought back on a 1 year, $1.5 M deal (but that’s a stretch considering we’re his 3rd team this year). Nobody from AA or AAA is probably ready (Nola could make it up at some point in 2015, but I highly doubt it would be at the start of the year). While Hamels is obviously the best trade chip, if I’m the Phils, I’m asking a lot back for Hamels – even at the salary (I’m talking 2 top 50 prospects – and maybe a 3rd in the top 100 – and at least 1 would have to be near MLB ready).