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EskimoJS
Why does McCarthy want to wait to see what the substantially better and substantially healthier pitchers make? If he wants close to Shields money, teams will just add the little bit extra and actually sign Shields.
Angels25
This is business suply and Demand, If Shield is not available
stl_cards16
Once the big 3 sign there is less supply, but also less demand. I don’t see McCarthy as the type of pitcher teams are going to alter their off-season plans for. He could put himself in a little trouble finding what he’s looking for if he waits too long.
Douglas Rau
There are more than 3 teams looking for quality starting pitching this off-season. McCarthy will still have plenty of suitors after those 3 sign. The only difference is the remaining teams who don’t get one of them will be more desperate.
stl_cards16
It’s really no different than Ervin Santana last year. Of course teams always need pitching, but no one is desperate for Brandon McCarthy.
Since_77
There is no Qualifying Offer for associated with Brandon McCarthy. A lot of teams will be interested.
stl_cards16
There are now. But they know what he’s worth and willing to pay. No one is going to adjust their valuation of McCarthy based on a Scherzer or Lester contract.
slider32
I agree!
Douglas Rau
Not as much as those guys but Jason Vargas got a bigger deal than we thought he would last year with the Royals because of the dirth of pitching in the game.
slider32
True, True, True, that’s big!
slider32
Yes and be willing to give him much less money. The longer he waits the less he will get.
slider32
I don’t see the same teams in the market for the big three and McCarthy.
Pingston
It’s called “establishing market value.” If he signs for X and the others sign for 5X it’s reasonable to assume he would have under-sold. That’s what a market is all about. Some teams no doubt have agreements with free agents they want to re-sign that they’ll let “market” establish prices before finalizing offers. McCarthy is being smart.
slider32
McCarthy is gambling by waiting, his market could go down and he probably won’t get more than the Yankees offer. They could go and sign someone else. Heck, I they change their mind they might go after one of the big three. They have the revenue to do it.
Pingston
Yep, it’s always a risk. But when his agents made their case to him, he agreed. One thing teams need is pitching and lots of it, so unlike Stephen Drew I don’t think he’ll get pinched in market door. I can and have been wrong.
Stan 2
Shields money will be substantially higher than he second and third tier pitchers
slider32
This is not good news for the Yanks, I’m sure they wanted to sign him early!
Mikenmn
while i don’t blame Mccarthy for the approach, i wonder just how much more money there will be for pitchers below that top tier. there’s an article on fangraphs that suggest that mccarthy and shields might actually perform at about the same level. that could be true, but the market rends to look for proven performance, and mccarthy was a sub-par and not very durable pitcher for arizona. Does 90 innings with the Yankees really make him a 4/60 or more type of pitcher? That’s a tough gamble for a FO to take, especially if the top three pitchers are swallowed by the high revenue teams.
rich 3
He should change his name to “Big Game Brandon”, then post an ERA of 5+ and a WHIP of 1.5 in the post-season and watch the offers roll in.
kirkdavenport
the market for the Big Three WILL affect McCarthy, Liriano, Santana and others. There are more than 3 teams looking to get in on the Big Three – the losers from that competition will be extra interested in getting a pitcher from the second tier pitchers and the stock of those pitchers will go up. There was already a demand for the second tier among teams like the Dodgers who would not pay for the big three. When the losers from among the Bostons, Yankees, Tigers, A’s, Cubs and a few other teams in for the big guys get into the second tier bidding, the second tier pitchers’ $$$ will go up.
Smart of McCarthy to wait
turn2
One significant contract of the Orioles was overlooked by Steve M. Their payroll also includes nearly $1.5 million owed to Dylan Bundy, who’s working his way back from Tommy John surgery and doesn’t figure to be with the team any earlier than mid-season.