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PatrickBateman
This is the one free agent where the phrase “tread lightly” is in play for quite a few teams
Lee Foo Young
I can’t see someone giving up a #1 pick for him given his injury history. I see one of those teams with a protected pick signing him?
PatrickBateman
That’s probably correct. I’m sure some teams will look at his history and be worried about “launching pad” Liriano returning.
Metsfan93
How about a team who’s already signed a QO guy, like whoever signs Martin or Shields? Like, if Boston of the Cubs get in on one of these guys I can see them losing their second rounder for the first and third rounder for the second.
Lee Foo Young
I am hoping that the Bucs can re-sign him. We need some SPs. We only really have Gerrit Cole and a bunch of #4 and #5’s.
Rally Weimaraner
Liriano will be hamstrung by the QO just like Santana, Morales and Drew were last year.
MB923
Cruz too. But I expect the same for Santana this year. No word (as far as I know) on whether he accepted or declined the QO, but after what happened last year after a so-so season this year, I think a Raise is pretty good, even if it’s only for 1 year. He should accept it.
Christopher Henderson
Santana and Cuddyer should both accept their QO’s
hiflyer000
He’ll probably end up getting a 1 year Santana type deal from a team that’s already lost a few picks. There are way too many comparable pitchers who won’t have a QO attached to them for him to get anything better than a 2 year deal.
Like Santana he’d probably be better served accepting the QO and hitting the market next year, where there will be far less competition and likely no QO attached.
ChiefIlliniwek
Disagree on the deal he would get.
If you’re surrendering a pick, you want to get value out of it. And from his standpoint, why sign a 1 year deal at a depressed value only to go through the same thing the following year. Everybody has an interest in a multiyear deal at that point.
Rally Weimaraner
I really don’t think Ubaldo Jimenez is a good comparison. Yes both pitchers have been inconsistent; but, Jimenez had 5 3+ WAR seasons over his 7 year career, Liriano had only 3 3+ WAR season over his 8 year career.
Upside can trump inconsistency and Jimenez had way more upside.
Bradley Maravalli
You got to love his K/9 stats but the walks and QO is a killer. I’d be reluctant to sign him unless it is a one-year deal, low salary like Kyle Lohse two years ago, or be a team with a protected first round pick.
Overbrook
I can’t imagine a team giving up a top draft choice for him.
matt mccarron
Texas, Cubs and Red Sox could all ditch a 2nd rounder for him. Most people expect the Sox and Cubs to blow there 2nd rounders on the big 3 anyways. Losing a 3rd round pick isn’t really a big deal anymore. All 3 teams I mentioned have a protected first rounder.
stl_cards16
Losing your 2nd and 3rd round slot money is a big deal. It can control who you can select with the rest of your picks. Sure, it’s worth it for some teams, but it’s certainly still a price to pay.
Ben_Cherington
Steve Adams, you predict 3/40, which is way overpriced. Im more in line with 3/39…cuz that’s how BC rolls!
Flash Gordon
That’s funny.
Nathan Boley
Man I forgot the 3/39 thing. We need to bring that back.
UltimateYankeeFan
Jimenez was 29 when he signed his 4 year deal. Liriano is currently 31 I think that as much as his inconsistency will effect his chances of getting a 4 year deal. I also think $40MM is just a little bit high as well, but it might be close for 3 years.
GrumpyPuppy
The FA pitching market is a lot stronger this year than last year, I dont think Liriano will get 3/40 with draft pick compensation attached and Scherzer, Lester, Shields, McCarthy, Santana and more on the market.
Stonehands
The only way I could see a 3 year deal being possible for him is if there is language in the deal protecting against the inevitable injury he always runs in to
Terry Janiak
If Liriano signs a 3 year deal I think the aav will be lower than the projected 13.3.I think 10mil aav over 3 years sounds realisitc so 3/30
Or a 2 year deal worth 11.5mil aav so 2/23
Metsfan93
Man, how much money does MLBtr think teams have this offseason? We haven’t even gotten to the big players yet and I feel we’ve got as many 40+ MM contracts as last year. If it’s a down free agent market, rather than these lesser players making the same money as the superior players from previous years, wouldn’t teams just spend less on them? I understand teams are flush with cash, I just think that MLBtr is missing the reason that the FA market is so weak; I don’t think teams are going to spend their excess cash on the free agent market. I can see a lot of this additional cash going to extensions and salary acquired via trade. I don’t think Liriano scores this high, ultimately. I think he’s more in line for 35 or 36 MM over a three-year term. I do expect him to decline the QO but he might have a lot of trouble if teams are hesitant to give him three guaranteed years. After all, there’s a reason he would want multi-year security beyond just decrease in performance.
Ecbucs 2
I don’t see losing the pick as that risky. It does impact draft signing money pool but it isn’t that significant. Signing Liriano may bolster a team so it doesn’t have to deal a couple top prospects (probably at least one number one pick) to get a pitcher in mid-season.
C.Feb
I cant imagine the Pirates make any attempt to bring him back for a multi year deal. In a year where I actually believe Pittsburgh will make legitimate offers to Martin and even Volquez , I think when it comes to Liriano they will cross their fingers he gets over payed elsewhere . There are many better values available to Pittsburgh for Starters that will leave a great deal more financial flexibility