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Draven Moss
Why would the O’s consider forfeiting a game oppose to taking the field? I realize that the new turf has apparently caused balls to slow down, but why would there be an extra incentive to quit over something like that? It must be really hard on their feet, or something like that. I think it is time they remove the turf and put down real grass. It might be more costly, but it’ll attract more free agents, and cause less controversy.
fridge99
It’s just crotchety Buck playing games. Jeff Blair predicted this was going to happen before the Orioles even came to town.
adamg
they are trying to figure out a way to get grass into the stadium for 2018. also, there was a writeup on fangraphs that refutes any of these claims being made by the orioles…just ridiculous
johnsilver
Am pretty sure you also watched the Sox-Rays series? How did you like how much balls slowed down when they hit that high platic grass when they hit the OF? You could see the “grass” part it’s so laughably high in tampa, like Moses parting the sea when a ball goes thru that stuff in the “grass” on the OF turn at Tampa now.
Agree with you Draven.. Get rid of those domed stadiums, or places where they “say” nothing but that kind of turf is workable.. Problem solved.
pft53
Toronto chose it to make it easier on their own players. Its supposed to be far easier on the legs than what they had. But maybe the Orioles see something there that we dont.
Ronald Movat
Hey Draven. The plan is to replace the (embarrassing) artificial turf with real grass after the lease with the Toronto Argonauts (CFL) runs out. I believe that’s after the 2017 season. There are some interesting articles online about the development of strains of turfgrass they’re working on at the University of Guelph that will tolerate lower light levels and not create too much unwanted humidity for a domed stadium. And you’re right about it attracting more free agents!
Tanthalas
Before the first game in the series they showed Buck out trampling on a fairly noticeable bulge of turf just beyond the infield behind first base that was possibly a legit safety concern for a player to trip over. I suspect the complaint is related to that.
Karkat
Red Sox offense should be fine, I think. The fact that they’re at 10-7 despite such relatively little offense and “no pitching” feels promising.
pft53
Pretty easy schedule I think, and that’s a SSS. They are fortunate the AL East is so weak and devoid of good pitching.
Bob Bunker
They played all division teams except for the Phillies who are terrible and the Nats who are good.
CleaverGreene
Devoid? Pineda, archer, tanaka, odorizzi and about 10 others that can be considered good.
start_wearing_purple
The Sox have been fairly lucky so far. There were a couple of games that were just handed to them.
Tko11
They will need to make a move midseason for pitching but there have been promising signs so far even in the games where the end result wasn’t great for the starter. Like Porcello showing off his stuff and striking out the first 5, Buch with 10 ks. I’m still hoping they eventually stop having that bad inning where these starts fall apart but we will see. That said the Yankees in my mind arent legit and will taper off eventually. Their hitting is led by Tex, Arod, Young which is not sustainable in my opinion.
pft53
What happened to the Red Sox farm system. They have not developed an ace since Lester who came up almost 10 years ago.
Aces show up, Darvish, Tanaka, Price (trade), Shields (FA), Scherzer (FA), Fister (trade), Kazmir, Greinke etc. But you got to pay and they may not be aces for long. Better you develop your own.
Karkat
You’re getting really generous with your definition of “ace” to include Shields, Fister, and Kazmir in there
pft53
Red Sox rotation has kind of lowered the bar I guess, but if not an ace all 3 are at least a number 2 and I don’t see the Red Sox as having anything more than a 3.
TB1223
How is Porcello not a #2? Last year, his FWAR was 38th of all major league starters. That puts him in the middle of the pack of #2 pitchers. All his peripherals support that, as well.
The logic in the off-season was that he was a #3 on Detroit last season, simply because it was based on the team having Scherzer and Price in front of him. Well, its a new season, if you follow that logic, he’s got to be a #1 or #2, depending on where you place him in the Red Sox rotation.
Bob Bunker
Personally I think the Red Sox farm has focused too much on hitting prospects and when they try to develop arms (Casey Kelly, Trey Ball) they seem to take riskier prospects rather then safer guys.
john59
Who would you consider riskier? Moncada, ERod?
Draven Moss
None of those guys are very risky, but I think the point Bob was trying to make is that they have been drafting more on high upside, oppose to high floor recently. Owens, E-Rod, and Johnson have middle-of-the-rotation stuff, while a guy like Trey Ball and Michael Kopech have displayed the ability to be a top-of-the-rotation arm, but their chance of busting is quite high.
TDKnies
Wish the Braves would’ve brought Harang back to be the #5 starter. Or at least tried.
Even with the idea that the team wouldn’t be good this year, I’d rather keep someone you know over bringing in new retreads. Not like he’s breaking the bank at $5mil either. Better him than Stults and Cahill at their salaries anyway.
Tko11
Showed some power last night, Ortiz and Hanley back to back and then Holt with the game winner. Kind of glad Victorino is out because Holt needs to be out there. The guy seems like he was made in a Pedroia mold, just plays hard every day.
Draven Moss
I love Holt, and he needs to be playing when he is hot. He will regress a lot eventually, but that’s when he can slip back into a utility role. Let’s just hope Farrell is willing to play Holt over Victorino. Bogaerts definately needs to be playing everyday.
0-3
In related news: The Baltimore Orioles have filed a grievance with the MLB over Bautista stealing their swagger.
I don’t think the turf was the reason for the 24-14 run differential…
ericl
Players complained that the Rogers Centre turf was hard on the body. So, they put in a softer surface. Now, teams are complaining that the turf is too slow. There has been a lot of tension between the Jays & Orioles this season. I think it is just an extension of that and the Orioles were looking for something else to complain about. The Jays have beaten the Orioles 5 of 6 this season and they don’t like it