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Dock_Elvis
The Ghost of Gene Mauch® is behind all of this madness in an attempt to take over as manager, and resurrect the The Cowboy
johnsilver
I always liked and respected Mauch.. Couple of key reasons..
1) Anyone who could manage and deal with those awful Expos teams all those years? OK in my book.
2) Remember Twins owner Calvin Griffith? Cheaper than Charlie O? Mauch had to deal with him for 5 full seasons. I remember when Lyman Bostock headed to the Angels.. Was murdered in a car believe it was?? Shot? Great talent anyway.. Griffith wouldn’t pay him.. Bill Campbell.. Better than Rollie Fingers 2 years.. Griffith wouldn’t pay him.. Rod Carew? Griffith wouldn’t pay him..
Get the idea? Gene Mauch was the fall guy who stayed on while every talent on those Twinkie teams walked away… Yep.. I always respected Gene Mauch..
Dock_Elvis
Gene Mauch was an excellent manager for a quarter century…just tragically never got all the way…that Phillies lead blown….Angels in 82 and 86
johnsilver
Then Dave Henderson came in and brought back all those memories.. Stories etc.. When he hit that HR to win the ALCS in ’86..
The guy sure deserved better after such a distinguished career.
Tragic? Is that how to describe his career? Fate? Wrong place at the wrong time when a certain job became available?
Bob Bates
Just of couple of notes…
First, Dave Henderson did not hit that HR to win the ALCS. What he did was help force games 6 and 7 to be played in Boston, which, ultimately sent Boston to the WS only to have the curse of the Bambino go through Buckner’s legs…
Second, sadly, Donnie never got over that blown save to which he killed his wife and himself in a murder-suicide. May the both R.I.P.
Dock_Elvis
Tragic was Donnie Moore
Lance
One of the most OVERrated managers in MLB history. I always heard about how much a “genius” Mauch was but I just never saw it even when he did have the talent. In 64, a 6.5 game lead with 12 games left to play and the Phils lose 10 straight. Jim Bunning, a frontrunner for Cy Young honors started in four of the last 10 games. Chris Short, a very fine pitcher that year started three of those games. Yes, he had some teams with lousy talent but didn’t do very well when he had talented teams. He’s not in the hall of fame for a reason.
Dock_Elvis
Well he’s not in the hall because of the lack of rings…that’s as political as much as anything. I’ll just add that the rotation issue in 64 going to the three man wasn’t that uncommon. He had an uncanny knack for reading other teams abilities from game to game….it’d be fascinating to see how he’d do with modern analysis aiding him. People ride him for the small ball approach… But he was very good at it because of his extreme ability to utilize it correctly… He knew when a third baseman had a sore arm..and when that bunt could succeed.
But yeah…the Hall of Fame? That’s a few games separating him from there. Interestingly Billy Beane has a little of Mauch rolling. Small sample size… And with Macuh that sample is a few postseason games.
Lance
Except Mauch was tossing Bunning out there on TWO days rest in those final days when the Phils lost 10 straight. I have no problems with “small ball.” A manager has to utilize the talent he has the best way he can and when you have guys like Bobby Wine, Coco Laboy and John Boccabella, you can’t sit back and wait for three run HR’s. But they couldn’t run like Willie McGee, Vince Coleman, Lonnie & Ozzie Smith so Herzog’s “small ball” worked much better. To me, Buck Showalter is a modern day Mauch. No questioning their baseball IQ but they don’t seem to wear very well on veteran players who just tune them out after a while.
Dock_Elvis
He’s basically Whitey Herzog. Almost any approach to the game can be successful if precisely applied. Those Cardinal teams just ran teams into the turf…then they’d have a single bopper like Jack Clark.
everlastingdave
Well that’s one way to make sure the GM stays out of Scioscia’s way.
angelsfan
Yay, a 71 year old GM… Who probably is not caught up with everything happening in baseball today. Bill Stoneman hired Mike Scioscia, but he likely can’t even fire him now.
fartymorono
I’m sure he still knows what’s going on. He never left the Angels organization. Hopefully he’ll mesh well with Klentack as his #2 and eventually Klentack takes over as the full-time GM.
Steve Adams
Stoneman’s never left the Angels’ front office, so while the concept of a 71-year-old interim GM may not be all that appealing to you, he does at least know the org inside and out, and likely the rest of the league as well. Plus, it sounds like Klentak will have a pretty big voice in the restructured front office.
longjohnsilver
Never saw a manager fire a GM before 🙂
mstrchef13
Well, you won’t have Stoneman pushing new age analytics on Scioscia. Probably still has a flip phone.
AsFan89
Actually, it’s a rotary.
thecoffinnail
Moreno should just channel his inner Jerry Jones and name himself GM.. He makes all of the big moves anyway..