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RunDMC
Really don’t understand why many think ATL would shop Teheran. He’s controllable and has more upside than most, yet he’s struggling in a down year. If we were competing, I could understand, but I can’t see how many teams could really afford him unless they have some prized positional prospects they’re willing to part with.
snazzypants
This is just my opinion, but this is actually a great time to market Teheran. Many teams this year are looking to make moves that help them “Now and in the future”- Such as the Cubs, Red Sox, Dodgers, and Padres. All of those teams have great prospects. Even with a down year, Teheran, like you said, has great upside.
RunDMC
I get it, but Coppolella has said the exact same thing about ATL (now and in the future). For a team that is on the bubble of a race with a laughable lineup, I don’t know if there’s many team that would not laugh at the proposed return from ATL. Teheran is just a few years out from being the top pitching prospect in MLB – for whatever that’s worth.
David 29
Now or later, one-two of Tehran/Miller/Wood will be shopped/traded for bats and better prospects or players.
snazzypants
I think Shields has earned the right to be called an ace. Sure, he’s having a down year, but he’s on pace to reach 200 strikeouts for the first time in a few years, mainly because he’s averaging 10 K/9. He has a 3.77 ERA which isn’t great, but not terrible either. It’s right in line with his career ERA.
My point is, based on his last few seasons, Shields has definitely shown “ace” stuff.
Los Calcetines Rojos
completely agree with ya shields is an ace in my eyes. Lester isn’t having a great year and he’s still an ace even though i’d rather have shields on my team.
tompapp
How about a swap of Samardzija for Puig. As a White Sox fan we need hitting and maybe being on a team with more than a few Cuban players especially a down to earth Abreu can help Puig get more professional in his approach to the game. The sox will probably need to add more than the Shark in the deal but they have some assets they can deal.
zxcx
“Probably” need to add more? I think that’s a pretty big understatement.
Los Calcetines Rojos
who knows if the sox eat salary its always a possibility but I could see like a middle tier sp (beck) and a lower minor leaguer (may) if no money is eaten in that deal because shark and puig are both having down years at the moment. Not too big of an understatement though.
Joe McMahon
Yeah, but Puig is controlled for a long time and Shark is a rental. That would be awful for the Dodgers. The Sox would have to add quite a lot more. Like multiple top prospects more.
Los Calcetines Rojos
That’s why I said sox would have to eat money as well as add prospects. not like they are gonna give montas and anderson with shark for puig that isnt realistic
stl_cards16 2
What isn’t realistic is thinking the Dodgers are going to accept a team eating money in exchange for giving up much greater value. This is the Dodgers we’re talking about, they eat money to increase the return, not the other way around.
jesuschristos
In what world is James Shields’ 2015 season considered “excellent”?
Steve Adams
Intent was to say “recently” in reference to his past few starts — not “presently.” Fixed.
Los Calcetines Rojos
Steve, realistically do you see shields improving if he goes to the cubs I have a feeling with wrigleys homer tendency this year and his issues with homers his numbers wont improve if that’s an accurate statement on my end
Math&Baseball
3.31 sFIP, 10,23 k/9 LOB% 79.5% it may not be excellent but hes pitched better than people have given him credit for. Especially given how poor both the infield and outfield defense has been this year.
mpstamp
You consider Mat Latos a “2nd tier” guy? The Mat Latos of old is not back. Unless of course you mean the clubhouse cancer that wore out his welcome in both Cincinnati and San Diego.
Los Calcetines Rojos
just about to say that. he’s 2 years away (including this year) from being a no.2-3. don’t understand how people can say samardzija isn’t worth a top 10 system prospect but latos somehow is. He has been a no.4-5 at best
redfan90
What about Leake, Chapman and Jesse Winker for Puig? Who says no?
bigturtlemachine
Reds. Jocketty is big on club chemistry guys. Too much to give.
Math&Baseball
Whatever the Padres get for Ross you can call that trade a success for the franchise. They got Ross for Andrew Werner and Andy Parrino and are going to trade him for 10x-100x what Andy Parrino and Andrew Werner were worth.