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CannonFodder
Cleveland’s other free-agent options at the time of the Swisher/Bourn signings turned out just as bad. I recall them competing for Edwin Jackson, Kyle Lohse, and Shane Victorino.
Brixton
Can we just call that the year of the bad contract?
Throw Hamilton, Cody Ross, Kevin Youk, Joe Blanton and Mike Adams with Bourn, Swisher, EJax, Lohse and Victorino and you have a pretty bad set of contracts.
mookiessnarl
Victorino got 3 years 39 million. He earned that entire contract with his performance in 2013. I don’t think a single Red Sox fan ever complained about that contract.
Brixton
Doesn’t matter if no one complains about it. 39M for 1 great year isn’t a good contract.
Draven Moss
Well based on WAR, they got 44MM in value because of one year. It mightn’t be as great as getting value throughout the whole contract, but it is certainly a stretch to consider it a bad contract. With the production they got from him, albeit from one year, I’d consider it a very good signing for them.
theo2016
Actually 1 great yeae can make a contract, especially a world series year. Keep in mind these huge contracts handed out are with the intention of paying out a couple peak seasons and then all the decline years. Also there is more than just good and bad contracts.
Lance
Shane didn’t have a GREAT year in 2013, but it’s everything they could have expected. He has disappointed the last two years. Not a complete bust (see Choo, Shin-Soo) but not what the BoSox hoped for either.
Draven Moss
He had 5.9 fWAR that year. It certainly was a great year for him, and per fWAR, the best of his career.
cookiemonster
12th in position player fwar in 2013
fanthopolous
Lohse wasn’t a terrible signing, I’d take 2 good years for every bad one for a guy in his mid 30’s
Out of place Met fan
I would think Plouffe will have a nice market at the winter meetings
tstokes97
A guy like him with an ability to hit for power and possibly play SS or 3B will have a lot of teams interested.
therealryan
I agree that he has value as an OK third baseman with a slightly above average bat, but he is not a SS. If he could even fake it over there the Twins wouldn’t consider trading him.
chicothekid
I know this is COMPLETELY O/T but there aren’t many Padres posts, this just happened, and this is the newest post, so..
I just wanted to extend my Congratulations to Matt Kemp, and the Padres, for the first cycle in team history.
Now that, THAT is out of the way and the official congratulations have been extended, as they should be, it’s time for the back of the hand…
We can also say that this is one more straw in the hat of the Padres organization, and one less thing we now have to make fun of them about.
Brixton
They never mention cycles unless its a complete side note in the introductory paragraph, and even that is a rarity.
If they had to mention it every time a player has a ridiculous game, it would become a daily thing.
You won’t see much about JBJ’s game today unless a well known writer writes an article on why its significant. Its not significant because JBJ isn’t an everyday player, at least not on the Sox moving forward.
Lance
Masterson is a classic example of why agents and players are quick to sign on to extensions when offered. It’s a gamble not to take the money when they can cause injury and/or poor performance is always a possibility.
Dock_Elvis
I was really surprised on Masterson. Cleveland really balked on him and his medicals were sketchy even in the public domain.
Vandals Took The Handles
Cleveland would have happily signed him had he taken the money. His agents were comparing that offer to what he Reds had overpaid a starting pitcher the previous year, and they wanted more. The Indians were maxed out and couldn’t meet the offer.
The Indians did not balk on signing him, nor were they terrible concerned about his medicals. They were the ones pushing for an extension. It had everything to do with his agents telling him that he was worth more money.