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mike244
Henry Owens and Deven Marrero for Tyson Ross, who says no?
Definitely a fair trade IMO. Ross only has 2 years of control and the Padres probably aren’t going to be able to extend him. They get 6 years of a top 30 prospect in Owens whos pitching well in the majors and a SS in Marrero. The RS trade off some prospect depth for a very good proven pitcher.
thecoffinnail
I like it.. Seems like a win for both teams.. If the Padres are willing to trade Kimbrel the Sox would be a logical trade partner for him.. They could probably get the Padres to take Craig as well if they included someone of the caliber of Moncada..
mike244
You’ve lost me there.. Theres next to no chance the Redsox trade Moncada for a reliever. If they put him on the market, which is highly unlikley, they will probably want an ace, not a reliever.
But I do think the Owens/Marrero for Ross is a good fit for both squads.
bruinsfan94 2
Moncada and Criag ( who really isnt owed anything) is crazy. The Red Sox spent 60 million to get Moncada. That trade makes no sense. Criag is not goingto hurt the team that much. The Red Sox would lose far more money then they would save and get a downgrade in overall talent. I don’t think theres one GM who take Craig Krembel over Moncada.
mike244
I dont think theres a GM that would take 3 Craig Kimbrel’s over Moncada.
dlevin11
I say no way RS trade Moncada except for Sonny Gray
Tko11
Ross is not enough of an improvement over Owens to justify trading both Owens and Marrero. I rather just keep Owens in the rotation next season at that cost. Marrero needs to shopped around for SP though, he is MLB ready and is blocked by Bogaerts.
Draven Moss
Ross has proved that he is a very good #2 in a rotation. Owens has that kind of upside, but it still remains a question mark. I like the kid, but I think if you can get Ross for him and Marrero, you do it. I also think Ross is extendable on a nice deal, which would make the trade look a whole lot better.
jvjc1233
If they can extend Ross on a team friendly deal, I’d like it. Just don’t like prospect of trading Owens, I believe he has that kind of upside, if not more. Marrero, I have no problem trading, he very clearly doesn’t have a future with Pedroia-Bogaerts-Holt in the MLB now, and Moncada coming up
johnsilver
2 pitch pitcher in the AL I have doubts on. Yes.. he’s been very effective in the NL West, but he doesn’t have a really overpowering FB and with just the 2 pitches, would be difficult to see myself giving up Owens in a deal for Tyson.
Marrero is no loss. never high on him from the day he was drafted, not to mention given an above slot bonus for some odd reason. I’d like to see him moved before his weaknesses (no bat) and chasing pitches (strikeouts) are exposed more at the MLB level.
stymeedone
He will likely want at least as much as Porcello on an extension.
mike244
Idk about that.. Porcello was coming off a 3.4 ERA season and was 26 years old, heading into FA at 27.
Ross has 2 years of control and will be a FA at 30, so theres a lot less leverage. Porcello’s 2014 season has almost matched all 3 of Ross’s good seasons as well.
jvjc1233
Agreed, don’t think trading both makes sense here
cant43@comcast.net
No way I’d involve Owens in any trade unless it brought in Chapmen.. I think Owens has more upside than Tyson Ross…Redsox should keep Owens and Rodriguez in the rotation, sign Price ( if he’d actually come here)..try and convince Lackey to come back despite the bad blood , and find trade partners for Miley and Bucholtz….put Kelly in the bullpen…
cant43@comcast.net
Love to have Kimbrel…but would offer a minor league package for him…Not Moncada..no way..
tuner49
Samardzija just lost some respect from me. Who does he think he is talking to when speaking this dribble about “his concern in contract negotiations has always been to preserve market value and set precedents for those who come after him.”
You preserve personal market value with a solid season and lose market value with a poor season. The top players set the market value for the league with the owners who are willing to pay top dollar for those services. Price and Grenke will raise the bar while the Shark will have to sit and wait with the rest of the FA SP to see what a team is willing to pay for their future services. Thinking about future players has nothing to do with what a team will be willing to pay him.
When talking about “home town discounts” that is a dollar discount for the extra personal value a player feels he gets (close to family, hometown, great comfort in clubhouse, etc.). The player then actually sets his own “market value” based on money and personal issues that go into the equation.
Could be that his “golden dome” was hit too many times playing football.
adshadbolt
How about this Owens, marrero, Sandoval and cash to the Phillies for makiel Franco and ptbnl
Brixton
You want the Phillies to take a pitcher they aren’t high on, a defensive shortstop and a bad contract in exchange for their best young player
hoohaa
Red Sox fans: Remember this is from Nick Cafardo. The guy who wanted the Sox to “Build around Bobby Valentine”. The guy who tried to sell us Lavarnway and Middlebrooks as hitters. The guy who reported the Sox were all over rental Johnney Cuento at the trade deadline…. a deal that made no sense whatsoever…again and again and again.
Cafardo is the epitome of the phrase: “If you hang around long enough then people will think you know what you’re talking about”