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ImDaBaron
While historically it may be true that the White Sox have not signed many free agents with Boras as their agent. But unlike Kenny Williams, Rick Hahn has a good relationship with Boras. So far he hasnt had trouble signing his clients. I expect us to be in the bidding for Wieters until the end. Looks like they’ve finally had enough of Flowers in the lineup everyday.
misterb71
I’m genuinely interested if there is anybody out there who thinks the O’s should not extend a QO to Wieters. I’ve engaged people throughout the summer who think the O’s won’t do it out of fear for Wieters taking the offer as a “pillow” deal. I can’t for the life of me see that happening. This could be his only chance to land a long-term deal on the open market and a one-year pillow deal would be risky. Seriously, how often do you get to go out and sign a #1 catcher when the need is there? He’s the only one on the market. It won’t be hard for Boras to find at least one, if not two teams willing to dance and go at least 4 years on Wieters.
johnsilver
I agree. Don’t think Boras will help his cause any however though. He’ll hold out maybe too long and wait for bids to come in that just won’t appear, as he does with people on the fringe, or previously hurt and could be a shame for really good guys like Wieters.
I do think that if McCann is able to get 5/85, then Wieters is worth every penny of the same contract as a much stronger defensive catcher who has a history as a power bat and knows how to run a pitching staff, much like Varitek from Boston used to know all of his pitchers, something the article neglected to mention and should not be overlooked.
tuna411
Mentioning varitek and borass in the same sentence while trying to makes points for borass/weiters doesn’t help your point.
johnsilver
Leadership abilities behind the plate is the comparison between catchers and the fact both are extremely knowledgable of staff. Both also very nice at blocking balls in the dirt.
There is more to the game than simply hitting, as what NY paid McCann to do and Weiters, Molina are the 2 veteran masters of the game currently. I’d like to see Boston give Vaqzuez a long chance to be the starting catcher, even if he isn’t the best hitter around. Doing everything behind the plate to the point of perfection is all I want and those 2 (Molina, Weiters) are the ones currently at the top.
tuna411
I am referencing the direction borass took when varitek went to free agency. He completely screwed it up for V. Asking too much and too many years. I can easily see this happening with EVERY non-elite player borass represents…
6blairpaul
How can Wieters be at the top when so far he hasn’t shown he’s recovered from TJ nor will he ever be the same as he was years ago.
GoRav114
I agree and have said as much from the beginning but word is the organization is leaning more towards no then yes which really surprised me.
6blairpaul
Wieters has to prove he’s a top catcher after his almost 2 years off.
I think the O’s would be crazy to offer a QO to Matt. There’s the possibility he’d take it. After making 8MM last year. He’s very tight with Buck. They cannot take a chance even if it is remote.
Stash_The_Gumbo
C’mon Braves! All signs point to yes. #3 pick is protected and we even picked up the Comp. Balance pick from MIA in the Olivera deal, so the QO might not be a humongous issue, if he gets it
RunDMC
We didn’t get rid of all those bad contracts to get into another one, not including we’d lose a decent 2nd rd pick (with BAL’s presumed QO). I like the guy, but I don’t think he can catch 110 games per year in the NL (no DH to hide him at). I say take the cost saving and try and deal for Lucroy if at all possible, then have conversations with Boras.
GoRav114
It’s actually opposite. He would be a good fit for a National League team because when healthy he has shown an ability to catch in over a 140 games which is rare for a catcher to do year in year out. His bat is good enough to keep him in the lineup every day without the need to DH him. His health was good before TJ and now he’s a year removed. A team is going to get a great deal as the QO and health concern surpress his value. He will easily get 4/60 and will be very much worth it.
WisBrave 2
He won’t be worth it to a team that’s still in rebuild mode. If that QO gets attached to him that should keep Braves out of the running for him.
RunDMC
The Braves act opportunistically (great word), and they have benefited from TJ surgery in the Draft, so I can see them easily lurking in the waters to find Wieters at a decent price. That wouldn’t be a bad contract (4/60).
6blairpaul
They were smart enough to take the chance on Markakis when he needed neck surgery. At 44 for 4 they got a steal there. Matt and Nick are close. I see them as teammates again. They’ll get Wieters relatively cheap and would be wise to grab him. Hart’s the smartest guy out there.
BigGiantHead
But the guy is not healthy. He ought to accept the QO and prove himself -then he will be up for the huge contract. A multi-year contract now would be a risk not worth taking.
GoRav114
Hes more than a year from TJ and had a lot of rest. He is and will be healthy for next season.
6blairpaul
How do you know?
misterb71
If he’s not healthy, consider the strong possibility that returning to Baltimore for one year on a pillow deal could actually prevent him from getting a long-term deal the following offseason. This is his best shot at a long-term contract even if it isn’t for an AAV higher than the QO will present. I’d wager Wieters is more interested in a larger amount of guaranteed money over a 4 to 5 year period than his year-to-year average salary.
6blairpaul
Agree with you but wouldn’t count on a QO.
David233
I hope the Astros take a hard look. I like Castro but he just cannot hit.
GoRav114
He’d be a good fit for Houston. Good leader in the clubhouse and good game caller. Also will come cheaper than his true value because of the injury fear.
Houcorrea
Could bring in Davis and Weiters from the O’s. Get rid of some dead money before they sign them in Carter and Castro.
bigtwinsfan14
Mr. Wieters, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE come to Minnesota! You will be LOVED here!!!
seamaholic 2
Just for the record, Nick Hundley had a higher wRC+ than Wieters this year, and was worth 2.3 fWAR. So not only would the Rockies (who also have a very good C prospect, Tom Murphy, just about ready) be uninterested, Hundley could well be available for anyone seeking a catcher.
GoRav114
Than why did the Os let Hundley go for Wieters instead of keeping Nick and trading Wieters? Comparing Hundley to Wieters is like comparing Rich Hill in his four Boston starts to Price cause Hill was better for four games.
seamaholic 2
Because the O’s made a mistake? Hundley isn’t better than Wieters by any means, but if they had kept Nick and traded Wieters, say for a starting pitcher, they’d be a heckuva lot better off.
Also Wieters isn’t very good. Hundley is a lot closer to Wieters than Hill is to Price. Not in the same universe.
Tim Dierkes
WAR for catchers doesn’t do much for me. I think most teams would consider Wieters to be notably better than Hundley, especially over the next several years, but I have no idea if the Rockies do. I think the Murphy point is a good one though.
jamesp-2
Tyler Flowers of the White Sox is 6’4″ 245 lbs.
robertcop
So he’s not as tall as Wieters!
Los Calcetines Rojos
Tyler Flowers GOAT
frankiet91175 2
Sorry but no way is Wieters as good a hitter than McCann. This is not a guy I’m breaking the bank for.
misterb71
When you compare Wieters to McCann defensively it’s just as different in the other direction. McCann is, at best, an average defensive catcher while Wieters is one of the top defenders and handlers of a staff behind the plate.