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BlueSkyLA
Greinke and Gregg Maddux are great points of comparison, and not only for the pitching stats they both put up and the way they handle the strike zone. Like Maddux, Grienke also knows how to help himself with his glove and bat.
Philliesfan4life
everyone says the cubs are a match made in heaven for each other, I think the cubs should spend the money on Zimmermann and Lackey. they get two great pitchers for the price of one
AcaciaStrain
I just don’t get it. Jason Heyward has a career 118 wRC+. That’s a near 20% above league average hitter. Meanwhile Upton has a career 121 wRC+, just 3% better and let’s be honest that’s basically equal.
Heyward hit as well as Prince Fielder, Ben Zobrist, Jose Altuve, Nolan Arenado, and others this year.
Heyward isn’t the best hitter in the league but he’s decidedly above average hitter with superb defense.
AndreB
Suggestion to MTR: Post the fact that Tommy Hanson from the Braves past away: scource cnn and Braves
AndreB
Oh nvm
Niekro
I think Mussina is a more favorable comp to Greinke any time you bring up Maddux you are just looking for a reaction. If any one still pitched like Maddux they would still be getting complete games he was the most efficient pitcher ever Greinke is not.. Maddux would be unaffected by today’s limits because he would complete games before 100 pitches.
BlueSkyLA
I suspect he was talking more about the style of pitching, given the reference to velocity and durability. In any case Maddux pitched an average of 6.77 innings per games started and Grienke so far is at 6.48. Neither has thrown a lot of innings in relief.but Grienke more than Maddux, so if you removed the relief innings the numbers would probably be a lot closer. Grienke has made an average of 15.85 pitches per inning and for his career Maddux is 12.7 PPI. And yes, Maddux’s completion rate is off the charts but that was a different era.
Niekro
That is nice Maddux has more than double shutouts alone than Greinke has complete games, Greinke has 2 complete games the past 5 years.
gneedoba
I don’t think anyone is trying to argue that Greinke is a better or more efficient pitcher than Maddux. Simply that with his delivery and reliance on command and pitching intelligence over velocity and raw ‘stuff’ that Greinke can sustain his success to a similar age that Maddux was able to, that’s all.
cxcx
How would removing relief appearances increase one’s innings per start?
dab394 2
I’m really surprised that those surveyed think Alex Gordon is the most likely among Zobrist, Cueto, and Gordon to return to the Kansas City Royals next year. Gordon would need to take a significant discount to return to Kansas City and I simply do not see that happening. He is in line for a 5 year contract worth around $100 million and I do not think the Royals will approach that. Early indications are that they would love to have him back, but only for three years, maybe four years.
With that said, I find it similarly unlikely that Cueto will be back. He will command a larger contract than Gordon. If the Royals are unable to give Gordon a nine-figure deal, they certainly will not offer that type of contract to Cueto.
Of the three, I think Zobrist has the best chance to return because he will not require a deal longer than four years and could play multiple positions. Of course, beside the fact that he is still a very good player, these qualities will make him attractive to every team, and therefore bidding could be intense. So while he may be the most likely to return to the Royals, I ultimately do not think he will either.