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Brixton
I value prospects highly, and wouldn’t normally do this type of thing, but the Dodgers should unload the farm for Fernandez, Sale or Gray. They have the money to lock up any of those pitchers for the rest of their primes, plus they have 4 1st round picks in June.
Urias, Montas, De Leon, Holmes and Van Slyke for Fernandez, Mike Dunn and Carter Capps?
Dodgers do that, they still have a good farm system, 4 first rounders, a great young core and a boat load of money to spend.
ExileInLA 2
Matt Harvey (plus Flores to fill SS) for Seager Urias Van Slyke.
Would you do it?
baseball714
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
fred-3
It takes two to play. According to reports, the Marlins and A’s aren’t talking unless you to start with Seager, which is a nope.
Even with that package you proposed, that completely obliterates their minor league starting pitching depth. That’s the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best minor league pitchers for a great pitcher but a huge injury risk, who will also be on a self imposed innings restriction next season
Philliesfan4life
If the dodgers miss out on Maeda, then I think they will have to sell the farm for an ace.
SoCalShu
Not to mention that locking up Fernandez isn’t a sure thing w/ Boras as his agent. Even w/ their deep pockets. They want to build thru their farm and lock guys yup as they go.
Brooklyn
“Kasten said that Greinke was the only serious target and other talks were mostly a case of due diligence.”
FINALLY…What appears to be the truth…they went after Zack but with a 5 year limit..knowing they could (and probably hoped they would) lose him BECause they really didn’t want to spend all that money.
They WERE NEVER SERIOUS ABOUT ANY of the other pitchers that we’ve been told the Dodgers were gonna sign any minute!!!
So For Opening Day we have Clayton & Kenley & anda bunch of nobodies….And according to management we are stronger than last year???
Also don’t forget we seem to have exchanged our great second baseman Howie, from last year, for UTLEY????
WOW, WOWIE, WOW!!!….uh…HUH???
Cam
It wasn’t because they “really didn’t want to spend all that money”. It was because they don’t want to end up saddled with bad contracts, years past being an asset.
Ask the Yankees what it’s like to have a slew of aging, less than productive veterans clogging up spots on the roster.
I wouldn’t call,Howie great, either. I’m quite happy with Seager/Kike+Utley platoon for the middle infield.
All I can say is, chill out – I know winning the off-season is sexy, but you’ll get over not winning pre-season awards.
BlueSkyLA
“Maybe better than last year” were his actual words. Which kind of means “probably not better than last year.”
As if last year was good enough anyway.
mhowe31296
So Gonzalez, Puig, Seager, Grandal, Turner, Ethier, Pederson, Hernandez, Anderson, and Wood are nobodys? Real baseball fans know these are quality players. Dodgers fans are too spoiled, look at the opening day roster from 5 years ago and tell me this team isn’t better off now.
BlueSkyLA
Nobody is disputing that the Dodgers are better now than they were five years ago when they were teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. What they are not is better than last year. Question marks large and small can be found at every position with no apparent plan to address them in 2016. Every time Kasten or Friedman brag on the farm system they are talking about players who aren’t expected to contribute until 2o17 or later. We don’t have to read far between the lines to see that they are treating 2016 more or less as a rebuilding year.
rainbirdmuse
Of that group you mentioned, the only one currently trending upward is Seager. The others are either starting to tail off (Gonzalez, Eithier) are small sample size (Wood Turner) or have big fat question marks on their uniforms. Is the team actually better” than it was five years ago? I’ll let you know in August.
thebare54
Wowie for Howie you got Utley that’s what you rich team deserves/ good luck 3rd in you division not bad but you did pick a good MGR
paulslc
I read the whole interview and Kasten is as arrogant as usual. Just be honest Stan, making a play for big FA’s is not the same as getting them. You told Friedman to cut payroll. With that enormous tv deal and the biggest attendance totals in MLB, this team should spend until a) the kids are ready and b) until they win a WS. It makes no sense to go half in. They’d have a title or 2 if they were smart enough to fix the bullpen the last couple of years, and/or pick up Madden when he was available last year. It was idiotic that they did neither, Mattingly was clearly in over his head making matchup decisions in the playoffs.
Win a freaking title before you go stage 2 would ya??
rainbirdmuse
I guess the key word here is contend. Mr. Kasten is content with being able to contend while we fans would like to win just once in 28 years. He also would like us to understand that the roster will be different when the playoffs begin. I guess most of us would prefer to see at least one move in the next six months that indicates the Dodgers are serious about making the playoffs in 2016. He would probably garner more respect if he was forthright enough to say the Dodgers don’t intend to win in 2016 but have every intention of doing so in 2017. And I wish he would explain why five years of Greinke was an acceptable risk but six years was not. An extra $30 million should mean almost nothing to one of baseball’s richest teams. They paid nearly $90 million this year for ex players. Greinke’s sixth year would have been a bargain.
rivera42
I found this very interesting from Kasten as well: “I don’t think the team we field today is the team we will open the postseason with next October.”
Well, I guess that’s it, folks. The Dodgers are making the postseason. Kasten said so.
olddodgerdogg63
I saw that too and I have to wonder if he thinks the fans won’t call him on that. I see LA finishing 3rd this year. I guess the only plus in that is we won’t have to suffer through another early exit from the playoffs.
Meanwhile we can count on Friedman and Zaidi bringing us more band aid brigade pitchers. This year they’ll pay McCarthy 18 million for what, half a season???
BlueSkyLA
FWIW, McCarthy is getting $12.5M next year. It was a 4/50 contract.
ew032
Depending on the results on the field, I expect to see DeLeon, Urias, and others introduced in 2016 much like Kershaw was when he first arrived. If their current rotation isn’t getting it done, moves will be made. The bullpen is still troubling, however. If anything close to last year, that will be more to fix.
BlueSkyLA
September call-ups, unless the Dodgers become desperate for options sooner. Keep in mind, Urias will be a teenager until August. A little much to expect him to contribute at the MLB level (let alone the postseason) at his age. Kershaw wasn’t exactly the pitcher we know today in his first season in the bigs. He got banged around a lot and even into his second season wasted a lot of pitches.
rainbirdmuse
Of course, Kasten has to say that he thinks things will be fine in 2016. It will be interesting to see what happens if the Dodgers are still “competitive” at the trade deadline. Do they release the death grip on the prospects and make a trade they will regret? Or do they stay with the program of cornering the entire prospect market like they did 20 years. ago? The irony is that they could have avoided all this drama by spending some of those TV dollars now on FAs. Yes, they haven’t been able to :”spend” their way deeper into the playoffs thus far, but that has to preferable to trading away “assets.” Then again if they are 10 games out at the trade deadline (a likely outcome given the improvement around them), the decision will be made for them. Too bad Chapman blew up on them. I think the Marlins would have flopped Fernandez for Chapman, Puig, Urias and a couple of groundskeepers.
BlueSkyLA
Reading the entire interview fills in some of the details of Kasten’s thinking but it still adds up to more or less the same thing, which is wait for the farm system to produce. Also a certain amount of pleading that nobody gives them enough credit how much improved the farm is today. Actually we get that Stan. One thing he won’t do is acknowledge that the team booted the July trades and could very well have cost the fans a championship.
rainbirdmuse
Seriously, how could someone who spent the 1990s with the Atlanta Braves call the current Dodger rotation “solid.” Solid what?