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Email a copy of 'Arbitration Breakdown: Josh Donaldson' to a friend
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adyo4552
Pay the man! Then maybe he can work on hitting in the clutch 😉
SFgiantsUK
kash1411
This guy needs a paycheck as big as his ego. Guys like this pull clubhouses apart, ship him!
Owen National
he is still young
jaysfan1994
Yes, ship him to New York! They take guys who shoot guns with their small children present.
/sarcasm
Priggs89
We’ll send you Todd Frazier for him right now. Great clubhouse guy.
cmac420
you sir are crazy, he just won the mvp, is the most clutch player ive ever seen, helped us make the playoffs for first time in 20 years.
Think he is deserving of whatever ego he has,
as far as the clubhouse goes , seemed like he was well loved by all teammates
winning trumps all, and this man is a WINNER
cmac420
you sir are crazy, he just won the mvp, is the most clutch player ive ever seen,
DAKINS
He did hit a few walk-offs this season.
bluejayseveryday
3 walk off home runs and another walk off single this season
vtadave
Agree. Really needs to improve upon last year’s 1.058 OPS with RISP if he wants that nine-figure deal.
adyo4552
I stand corrected
cxcx
I find it weird that a long post about Donaldson’s arbitration would not bother to touch on or recap his arbitration fiasco last year and mention how it would (or wouldn’t) effect his approach this time around.
I also find it exceedingly weird that these arbitration posts seem to never actually discuss arbitration. They just talk about about a projected final figure as if it just came from averaging several similar players raises then adding or subtracting “x”.
Arbitration is a player picking a number and a team picking a number and seeing if they can find a compromise and if not then having a panel pick which of the two raises is more appropriate. The panel doesn”t just come up with the perfect raise amount on it’s own, it picks between two often imperfect choices (see Donaldson last year).
A good arbitration breakdown would examine the filing histories of the involved team and agent and also their frequency of actually going to arbitration. So if both parties are relatively unlikely to seek arbitration then maybe the model projection or the modification of it is a good projection by itself. But if the parties involved are relatively likely to go to arbitration then it would be good to know how much lower than the projection the team tends to file and how much higher than the projection the player is likely to file. And then if panels tend to favor one over the other, like if they tend to pick the team or player salary based on which is absolutely closer to the projection or if one side has slightly more leeway than the other to be off but still win. Also the winning percentages of involved agents and teams. Also if any particular positions or types of players have higher or lower winning percentages in hearings and whether they have a higher or lower likelihood than average to go arbitration at all. And whether how a player’s defeat in a hearing one year effects his negotiations with his team the next year, how likely a player is to go to arbitration again the year after a loss, if players tend to gain or lose leeway in hearings after a loss, etc.
Basically these posts seem to involve looking at raises of previous arbitration eligible players then tweaking those numbers with player stats. There is almost no mention of arbitration.
mattdsmith
These posts have been historically accurate when all the filings come through. But these posts are not meant to continually remind the reader of the process like you suggest. They’re meant to offer an end result. If you are worried about how they’ll get to the end result, you can use your own obvious wealth of writing knowledge and arbitration expertise to develop a model and then write about it.
SoCalShu
No disrespect to MLBTR but it seems that the media shapes what the agents ask for by reporting their opinions long before the process takes place(not specifically this story)
When you see MLB media outlets start speculating about a $500m contract 2yrs before the player becomes a FA…this isn’t a baseball specific issue as all media spins/creates stories to skew or direct public opinion and controversy b/c controversy creates ratings/clicks…
PutMeinCoach88
Who cares as long as you find out the end result. You can speculate and guess all day what hes projected as or talk about it til you’re blue in the face. Who has time to read a big article about one guy’s arb case when there’s so many more articles out there. Not to mention, do you have any idea how busy these guys at MLBTR are?!?!
HibbardsHustler
I think this process should be done sooner. It’s crippling to teams when they don’t know how much they have to spend so they miss out on free agents because the possible outcome may put them over budget.
Owen National
I agree
Rollie's Mustache
I imagine in most cases it’s not a big deal for the team. The gap in figure between what the Jays will submit and what Donaldson will is much, much larger than most other arbitration cases. Like MLBTR, teams have a projection model too and can arrive at a likely estimate based on it. The end result probably won’t differ all that much from the projection.
If a team is “crippled” by having to spend an extra $4-5M in arbitration than they anticipated, then they wouldn’t have been in on big name free agents to begin with.
That said, I’d also be curious to know why the process isn’t done sooner.