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TJECK109
Depending on the asking I wouldn’t mind if the Pirates took a chance on Lee.
chri
Given Ray searage’s reputation to “fix” veteran pitchers who’ve struggled, you think they should take a flier on Lincecum?
Given that Locke and Vogelsong are slated to be their 4/5 starters, i think it’s worth a shot
Brixton
The Pirates have a reputation for helping pitchers who have struggled; Worley, Grilli, Burnett, Volquez, Bastardo, etc.
Lee is one bad pitch from ending his career. If Lee ever pitched again, he won’t make it through a whole season
Cam
Gotta think Lincecum back to the Giants as a swingman is about the only possibility, right?
JoeyPankake
He would have to beat out Heston for the job.
Kapler's Coconut Oil
All signs point to no at this moment. Why pay millions for a long reliever when you already have one at the league minimum?
FrnchDp
It wouldn’t have to be millions. If he can outpitch Heston, they can offer him a league minimum contract with incentives.
slider32
Lincecum if worth taking a look at, he won 2 cy youngs.
chri
I think he is worth taking a look at, because some team may be able to use him out of the pen.
But it’s wishful thinking that he could become a cy young contender again. That was 6-7 years ago
baseball579
I could see the braves taking a chance on him
JoeyPankake
Wishing Lincecum all the best, but I hope the Giants stay out of the market for him.
JcHc3in1
Angels should have just re-signed Freese rather than trading for Escobar.
chri
They probably think Yunel can repeat his offensive performance from last year, despite having a .347 BABIP (career .306)
chri
Wow if you didn’t know better, you would have thought this article was written in 2011/12. Freese, Lee, victorino and Lincecum all players who had past success
DannyBoy 3
I know Lincecum’s heart will always be in the rotation, but teams should honestly consider him out of the pen. The way that so many pitchers have turned their careers around by making that switch, it could prolong his career and land him with a contender like the Royals or maybe the Cardinals.
stymeedone
He might be a good fit for the Orioles. Less expensive rebound candidate that will likely sign for a job in the rotation.
DannyBoy 3
That is true. I feel that the Orioles are one more big player away from taking the division. If they could squeeze out a Cespedes or Upton deal, that would be the deadliest lineup in baseball. Who needs pitching then!
22222pete
Except for the 10% of players who are set for life with a multi-year mega deal I can’t imagine the MLBPA wanting fewer games since payrolls follow revenue growth and a reduction in revenue means lower salaries. Owners would make more money in the post season by expanding the post season but players don’t get as much of the post season revenue as they do regular season (maybe only 20% as much)
Expanded rosters and a DH for NL teams is the best way to keep players healthy
Ray Ray
How does a DH for NL teams keep players healthy? Yes a couple of big name pitchers got hurt while batting and/or baserunning last year so it stood out, but how many pitchers DIDN’T get hurt while batting. Teams need to have pitchers work on stretching more and not just their arms. Extra batting practice wouldn’t kill them either. They are baseball players, not pitching machines. They are professional athletes making a lot of money, they should be able to run and hit without breaking something.
Brixton
If you have Joey Votto (for example), playing 4 games in the field and 3 games at DH per week, hes less likely to get injured than if he plays 7 games at 1B a week.
It would also make FA better. Think about when VMart, Nelson Cruz and Beltran were FAs. Not many NL teams want to take a chance on them because they weren’t going to be able to play the field all week without either hurting their value or hurting themselves.
Ray Ray
If you wrap players in bubble wrap and put them on a shelf they are less likely to get injured as well. That doesn’t make it a good idea. Injuries are a part of the game and you are never going to stop them.
I’d rather players like VMart and Nelson Cruz stay in the AL. I watch National League games almost exclusively, barring interleague games and the occasional Sunday night game. I have no problem with the DH in the AL because it gives DH fans something to watch as well. The AL can start having completely separate offensive and defensive teams like the NFL for all I care. But I (and many others like me) don’t like the DH and would prefer to watch the game the way it was designed to be played. If you would rather not watch pitchers hit, then become a fan of an AL team. There is 15 to choose from, you should find one you like.
capnfatback
Nevertheless, Brixton explained to you how an NL DH will help to keep players healthy. But you seem to be arguing that you don’t like the DH.
Fine, but your sentiment about how “the game was designed to be played ” doesn’t quite cut it. The game has gone through a lot of tweaks and modifications over its history, and certainly you can agree that the average pitcher is less of an offensive asset than he was when the game was first devised.
JcHc3in1
Absolutely correct!
JcHc3in1
My comment was in reply to BaseballFuries btw
Ray Ray
David Freese should try and sign with the Reds. Without Frazier, there will at bats up for grabs. He should be able to rebuild his value somewhat. Even if the Reds want to use Peraza there at the start of the season, it would be wise to get a veteran back up in case he isn’t ready.
Brixton
The Reds need to find ways to get Phillips, Suarez, Cozart, Peraza and at some point, Jagielo, ABs at the big league level at 2B/3B/SS.
I don’t think Freese is going to have to take a 1 year deal anyways.
Ray Ray
I forgot about Jagielo, so the Reds are probably out. I just don’t see any team giving Freese a multi year deal now. Who even needs a 3B right now? Since they lost Walker and Ramirez, I could see the Pirates making a play if the price is right. I can’t think of anyone else that needs one. He might do well to stay unsigned into Spring Training and wait for an injury or two.
statmaster96
Pirates will play Kang at 3rd. As for other options, Cleveland? Urshela and Ramirez won’t do the trick if they want to contend. Milwaukee? They only have Cecchini and Middlebrooks but they would likely offer a one year deal.
bleacherbum
Lincecum should consider San Diego, he could fill kennedy’s spot in the rotation and he wouldn’t have to learn new hitters by staying in the same division. Pitcher friendly ballpark, and if he signs a pillow contract he could lure a team into giving him a multi-year contract to likely be his last contract of his career after this year. Not to mention he owns the Padres and has thrown both of his no-hitters against them so I’m sure they wouldn’t mind having him in their dugout.
Shields, Ross, Cashner, Lincecum, Morrow/Maurer
Get him on a 1 year 5-6 million dollar deal? Could be a nice fit
statmaster96
I really like this idea for San Diego. They don’t have much for pitching prospect knocking at the door and I also think that Maurer works better in the ‘pen than he would as a #5 starter.
mike156
The idea of expanded rosters is a good one, but my primary concern would be an esthetic one–I would really not want to see a team with 15 pitchers on it, and 4-5 relief pitchers every game.
JcHc3in1
More like 7-10 a game. 3 hour 30 minute games would be average.
912boy
Wish the Braves could sign Lee to a low 2 year deal if he would do it could really help the youngsters.
statmaster96
What if instead of expanding the active roster, teams could be eligible to make 3 players inactive and still have an active 25? Just an idea.
JcHc3in1
That’s exactly what Cafardo is saying:
“Roster expansion could take the form of teams having a 28-man active roster, but only 25 players are eligible for any game day. “
stymeedone
Owners won’t like paying those three players. It will more likely be one or two, after negotiations. What are the players giving up for these extra spots?
slider32
The Pirates seem like a good spot for him!
mctigers
Tigers need all the BP depth they can get, plus rotation help. Bring Timmy to Detroit. He can throw relief at least probably, and best case scenario he becomes the world’s unlikeliest bounceback.
timyanks
freese should sign with st louis. move carpenter to right field, piscotty to first
Sky14
I really dislike the idea of expanded rosters but think it is only a matter of time when the MLB goes that direction. With top starting pitchers so valuable, expanded rosters would allow teams to shorten the game when they have a more mediocre starter that struggles the 2nd or third time through the lineup. Those pitchers can give it there all for 4-5 innings and then it is a bullpen game. The extra roster spots would almost never go to position players. I think fans would lose out if it did happen as it would slow down the game and likely would lead to lower scoring games.