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chri
Everyone is focusing on the qualifying offer/loss of draft pick and its impact on free agents but the “keep top prospect in minors for two weeks” to gain an extra year of club control needs to be fixed in the CBA as well.
Make the cutoff around something like 2 months not two weeks so it impacts a teams chance at contention that year if they want to keep the top prospect in the minors
KoRKDoLLaRs
Good point
Niekro
That would just hurt the players more and change nothing no team goes into a season expecting to rely on prospects to compete it has no affect, no one puts that much stock into a rookie. Kris Bryant would have just sat in the minors for 2 months instead of 2 weeks.
Out of place Met fan
That would move what constitutes a service year to about 120 days, less than what a player typically needs to currently qualify for Super 2. Which in itself would most likely be affected, lowering to about 90 days. The economic impact of such a drastic move would have a ripple effect
justinept
Lost in this discussion is that the service time rule in question affects ZERO MLB players. Kris Bryant isn’t going to retroactively accrue a full year of service time based on a rule change two years later. That’s why it doesn’t get talked about. In order for the owners to give up the current service time rules, the players are going to need to give up something on their side. Why in the world would they ever give up something to get a rule changed when that rule has ZERO affect on them.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
The way this is going there is going to be somewhat of a change. The issue is delaying the clock for free agency. Leave it at 6, but like the QO, base super two off of performance and not necessarily service time. You can’t blame teams for trying to keep players from arb as long as possible. Its the system in place and teams will always try to find that loop hole. Players will dictate their performance. Perform within the top 10-20% , within their first two years, of their respective position in order to earn super 2 status. Guys who deserve super 2 will still have the ability to obtain that status and teams will no longer be able to control that. The problem with free agency is you pay for past performance and not future production. Now having owners agree to that is a different story
A'sfaninUK
Sounds like RAJ finally understood how bad he was at his job and is trying to save face in case he gets another chance to GM again. He was pretty vocal about being anti-analytics and surrounded himself with old school guys, and also had old school guys like Mike Schmidt take to the media to discredit metrics.
Cam
Absolutely – his re-writing of recent history is quite laughable.
He’s pretty much trying to say – “Hey, when I told you we didn’t care about it, we actually did!”. His current outlook on what happened is in direct conflict with what he portrayed at the time.
And I have no reason to believe the Phillies FO, RAJ included, was any smarter than they seemed.
sigurd 2
Amaro doesn’t understand that having their one analytics guy get him his coffee every morning doesn’t count as using analytics.
soxfan1
I thought mallex smith was on the chiefs?