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BashBro
Everyone settle down. It’s only been two since opening day. It’s Marathon!
baseballrat
Better for Greinke to Struggle Early, as opposed to Late. He will figure it out.
chesteraarthur
Why? A loss now is the same as a loss later
baseballrat
Thanks for the Fact smart guy. I’m sure you were expecting him to go undefeated. Wish I was as smart as you are
dodgerdog
I can’t believe this Friedman guy. “Vulnerability” shouldn’t even be in the same sentence that references a guy making 7 mil a year to play a kid’s game. I’m beyond caring about Puig’s “vulnerability” at that (or any) price.
BashBro
I guess, just b/c they make a lot of money they are “Robots” and inhuman. Sounds about right
dodgerdog
Puig’s immaturity is legendary. I wonder, Bash, if your boss would long tolerate that level of immaturity or give a fig about your “vulnerability”?
BashBro
I’m pretty sure he had NEW bosses (Freidman/Roberts) who came in and was willing to let the past be just that. Maybe that worked, but I’m sure you know all the happening inside the clubhouse better than anyone
BlueSkyLA
The best way to remain sane as a Dodger fan is to ignore pretty much everything Friedman says. I would not call Puig’s immaturity “legendary” but it has certainly has been a factor in his development as a player, and yes, people in his situation can often use mentors to help them along. We’ve seen some real growth from Puig this year, so whatever is being done seems to be helping.
BashBro
From what I’ve read I think Adrian Gonzales words are starting to sink in slowly but surely. He still has a ways to go, but it’s headed in a positive direction.
tommyLA
Yes it’s a kids game, but the man is human. He wants to be liked and appreciated just like anyone else in any real life situation. Friedman has a deep concern for his players emotional investment in the game as it translates to production.
BlueSkyLA
I was with you until the last part. Nothing that Friedman says conveys deep concern. His statements are always laced with bland corporate-speak, such as this beauty from the source article: “But there are certain constructs within the environment of a team that are important.”
He understands investments all right, just not of the emotional kind.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
To try an compare job status to what they do isn’t in the same realm of possibility. I don’t think anybody on these boards were dropped in a different country guaranteed at the time they signed they couldn’t go back home with expectations to produce at jump street. As a fan you’re probably only looking for production. And Puig is producing and doing things right way so their shouldn’t be gripe unless you’re waiting for him to fail. I think what everyone doesn’t take into account is age. The kid was signed as a 21-22 year old. In a new country new language new everything. Knowing at the time he couldn’t go back home. This biggest aspect is the cultural difference. That is huge. Puig is starting to grow up. I agree with taking what Friedman says with at face value. But what GM do you know that’s going to tell you exactly what they know. Friedman was beloved bu Rays players so I’m going to hold judgement on what I don’t know in not caring for their emotional well being.
A'sfaninUK
Yet another narrow-minded “all baseball players live the same life no matter what country they’re from” view from someone who’s so clueless about everything that isn’t their own view of the world.
“Immature” or having fun the same way he had fun his entire life playing baseball? Bryce was right, and people like you really need to grow up, not the other way around.
cardfan2011
Im surprised by Oh’s seamless transition into the bullpen and here’s hoping he continues to pitch effectively. As for Grichuk, I like his bat, and his potential.
rocky7
Well, All I would say with respect to Puig is that $42 Million can offer lots of options when it comes to support or acclimating to new surroundings.
Friedman states “we sign them for big money and rush them to the big leagues”….really.
The players themselves insist on signing for the highest dollar amount available and pretty much don’t want anything to do with the minor leagues so who exactly is to blame here.
Friedman and his contemporaries in management are to blame for throwing the amount of dollars at untested players who are thrown into big league games immediately. Trying to catch lightning in a bottle the easy way.
Ask the Red Sox or Atlanta what they think of their investment in Cuban League ballplayers so far. And you better believe the Red Sox are saying prayers over Moncado as far as their investment in this young man and his future major league skills.
davidcoonce74
Friedman didn’t sign Puig
A'sfaninUK
Americans from low income background who win the lottery often blow through the money within a few years. How is that different to a Cuban baseball player who came over on a raft? Freidman is 100% correct, MLB has not helped them other than give them money – need more than that.
Deke
Ozzie Guillen had been saying for years that teams would bring in translators for Japanese players but never for anyone who spoke Spanish and instead relied on a player to act as a translator.
However Puig’s issues are not related to not having someone to translate to him, there’s plenty of people who can act as a go between and communicate with him to tell him to pull his head in. Puig’s issues are that he’s selfish, immature and basically about as intelligent as a bucket of hair. I can’t see that moron changing his attitude. He might reel it in a bit but once an idiot, always an idiot.
BlueSkyLA
Charming. I bet you’re lots of fun at parties too.
lobretto1
Deke if you actually watched Puig at all this year he has made tremendous strides. He hasn’t been a problem at all from the outside looking in and just from watching him on camera you can see he has made an improvement on all aspects. For example he has been hustling hard on every ball out in play but you got to be so quick to judge from the past with a close minded attitude basically saying people can’t change. News flash….it happens everyday. He must be the life of the party BlueSkyLA
CASH_MONEY1
Grienke better shape up!! He is on my fantasy team