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Ken M.
Hopefully it is just an elbow strain. I believe he was on the list of pitchers with the possiblity for elbow problems this year.
MB923
You are right. I believe every Yankees starter in that list was 60% or above
steelerbravenation
Severino on the D.L., C.C. on the D.L. , You never know when Tanska’s elbow is going to go, Nova stinks, Pineada has injury histories and is known to go on the D.L. a time or 2 during the course of the season & Evoldi is very inconsistent.
With that being said do the Yankee fans believe that they would not be interested in a young former top prospect signed to a team friendly contract who pitches 200 innings and was an all star once in his career already in Teheran ?
If you think that Teheran’s struggles in the first 3/4 of last year made him completely fall off you guys are crazy. I now believe that Sanchez is not worth Teheran. If the Yankees were to make a deal for Julio then the deal would have to include more than just Sanchez coming back.
Thegreatandpowerfulsimba
Dude stop… Teheran 2 years ago yes. A year from now maybe, but right now Teheran doesn’t equal Sanchez. Teheran and Jenkins maybe if the Yankees were in love with both. But I do think a Teheran for McCann could work.
mcdusty31
Nope…you don’t trade an aging catcher for a young arm like Teheran…there would need to be other pieces involved for that conversation to even begin
Thegreatandpowerfulsimba
Teheran for McCann is what I typed- auto correct lol
Thegreatandpowerfulsimba
Ok now it’s trade rumors app not taking the addition symbol. McCann plus is what I’m typing in haha
steelerbravenation
Now way either team does McCann for Teheran. That deal contradicts itself. Yanks would trade for Teheran if they believe they could make a run this year. You don’t give up a top 5 catcher and hand the reigns over to a rookie.
Now if the Yankees are going to try and make a run at it and believe they can get somebody better than Teheran for Sanchez than ok I could see that. Or if the decide in the offseason that Sanchez is ready and they want to move McCann I would be all for a reunion I actually like that scenerio better but if that is the case there is no way Teheran is getting moved for him.
rocky7
You’re way over valuing a 40-34 pitcher with a 3..42 ERA in the National League pal.
In the American league, this kid gets eaten up regularly.
He was an all star because he was a stinker on a team of bigger stinkers the year he made it.
theo2016
Maybe the braves just should have never traded Victor caratini. In regards to Teheran, you can project out him producing roughly 40-50 mil in surplus value. A hitting prospect in the 15-20 range in the top 100 prospects is worth just over 40 mil surplus. So yes value wise he is worth Sanchez and a lottery ticket arm. 2 problems, teams prefer to spread out risk instead of just getting 1 guy back and will take 2 50-100 guys instead, secondly it’s pretty early to address “needs” on a rebuilding team… You have no idea which of your prospects will hit and miss yet. It is much wiser to just extract max value at any position and let the chips fall and then fill needs. Teams always need pitching so you are trading from the area you will definitely need help at.
Thegreatandpowerfulsimba
Theo I cringe saying this but don’t look at your numbers lmfao. McCann=aging catcher with nice pop decent obp and low avg and a lot of miles on his body=risk. Teheran=plausibly somewhere between a back end innings eater vs a strong 2=risk. Jenkins is ready and Ellis needs a triple a slot. Aj hasn’t worked out. McCann is the leader/enforcer/professional the braves have been lacking. Baby brave comes home trains and molds young blue chip pitchers finally gets the braves another ring- assign a surplus value for that story? Teheran might win 20 games, or he might be in the Yankees pen b4 the end of next year. How many pitchers are on the top 50 list- how many catchers? Catcher is a low supply position right now. Yankees need to bring up there young valuable catcher we need to bring up a young valuable pitcher. Add players and cash and send bmac home. Heck make him a player coach fire frediot and kill two birds with one stone.
theo2016
I said nothing about McCann.
Thegreatandpowerfulsimba
you commented on the discussion where I suggested McCann instead of Sanchez. I thought it would be more respectful to tell you why big mac for Teheran works. Instead of why you are wrong evaluating sanchez at plus 40 million and Teheran at plus forty to fifty million. Sanchez will be a mlb top ten probably top 5 catcher in two years. Teheran will be lucky to be a top 20 pitcher. 4 catchers are on the top 100 prospects- 2 will probably be in the majors this year. Close to 40 pitchers make up almost half the top 100 prospect list. Sanchez is more valuable than Teheran. Sanchez is basically untouchable. Teheran will bring a top 20 prospect and more in, but not a top 5 young controllable mlb catcher.
theo2016
1 I responded to the original comment, 2 the number of catchers in the top 100 is irrelevant to the quality of them, 3 there is significant questions to whether the guy can even catch long term, and might be forced into a backup catcher and dhing on the days he doesn’t catch. Lastly the braves aren’t competing this year or next, you seem to think these prospects are ready when they arent, Ruiz k rate spiked and his babip is unsustainable while maybe being an average defender he offers no baserunning value, he will not be “shooting up lists”. Jenkins has no out pitch, he relies on a plus fastball but can’t strike anyone out and is relying on homer suppression to succeed. The other guys you mention are years away. So why again to they want mccann? For his age 34 and 35 seasons when they might be competetive and he might only decline a little?
Gogerty
You ever just read the comments and not even look at who post? I was half way through saying, “man this sounds familiar.” Good morning Steelerbrave.
rocky7
Dude….please stop with you rants about Teheran….the next coming!!!
He’s not a trade target of the Yankees now, or in the future.
Your Brave stink and a prospect is still a prospect.
Stop already man.
Gogerty
Well, that escalated quickly. Haha
22222pete
44% IP jump last year, age 22, high percentage of hard pitches, 113 pitches last start. Calling Dr Andrews
steelerbravenation
I never proposed a 1 for 1 deal involving Julio snd Sanchez I always said they would just be the main components. The deal I put on the table I felt was realistic was Sanchez, Headley, Lindgrun, Refsnyder & about 10 million$ for Teheran and Ruiz.
In that scenerio the Yankees would be getting a cost controlled young a starting pitcher and a 3rd baseman of the future who is near MLB ready and salary relief of Headley’s contract.
The Braves would be getting their C of the future and a veteran 3rd baseman to hold the position down until Austin Riley is ready. Who would be playing at a reasonable salary when factoring in the money coming back. A LH bullpen arm and what I think would be a bat first utility guy in Refsnyder. Maybe switch out Refsnyder for another young arm.
I know taking on Headley’s contract is a gamble but I believe he is a change of scenery guy. He is not built offensively for Yankee stadium and I don’t think he is built for playing in NY. I think he is more of a national league guy and worth a risk.
Thegreatandpowerfulsimba
Bro you are missing bad- what makes you think Riley can stay at 3rd base? He hasn’t even had 2 decent low minor seasons yet? Ruiz is almost mlb ready and making huge strides defensively. He will vault up a lot of people’s mid-seasons prospects lists. Ruiz is more valuable than Teheran TO THE BRAVES. He is our 3rd baseman for the foreseeable future. The thing we are agreeing on is we need a catcher lol and Teheran is the bait. Any targets outside of lucroy or Sanchez? I think wieters accepted Baltimore’s offer bc he already has a handshake deal from the braves for next year. Teheran inciarte mark skis and freeman and grilli are all expendable. Ruiz is not though haha
theo2016
You think the Yankees need salary relief?
steelerbravenation
Not that they need salary relief but it is obvious how they are conscious of it under Hal. They signed 0 free agents last off season. That has to say something about what they are trying to do.
And I don’t know how sold I am on Ruiz but I am not going to look at all the nonsense analytics thrown out there to say he isn’t going to be good.
I am not going to say either way until I see them in the majors.
rocky7
Stick to what you know….because you don’t know squat about the Yankees man.
ducksnort69
Logan Morrison is burnt toast.
johnsilver
Agree 100%, yet 2x teams have continued to overpay for this guy, who lacks discipline for some reason.
I’ve laghed at many boards over these deals from the ooutset over these.. 1st the M’s giving up Capps, now Farquhar.. 2 decent relief pieces. The Rays, even more mind bobbling as they got stuck paying LoMo over 4m after already paying Loney 8m and releasing him. Loney may have been of MORE use than the useless LoMo nowdays, at least Loney has a fair glove.. LoMo’s glove is useless and his power is about gone.
People should really wonder exactly what is going on in the front office of that Rays franchise.. Sternberg needs to clean house. It’s a ship sailing of it’s on accord there.. literally rudderless it seems.
theo2016
He had a 112 wRC+ last year against righties so you can see where their heads were. His k rate doubled and he lost 15% on his contact rate out of nowhere.