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krillin
Super smart to put that clarification at the beginning there.
pustule bosey
it’s a little bit presumptuous to say that there is only 1 slot in the near future in the giants rotation – cain has been shaky and if you look 2 years out cueto can opt out so in 2 years it could be 3 slots – that being said beede and meija are dealable with guys like bickford behind them and blackburn ahead –
texrangers
We have the prospects to trade for Sale! I would love Sale, Darvish, Hamels!
Bruin1012
That would make Texas the instant favorite to make the World Series glad that it does not appear that Chicago is trading Sale at any price.
Philliesfan4life
I doubt the rangers would give up Profar or Gallo for Sale.
Sam.rhodes16
????? A deal for Sale starts with BOTH of those guys…
chieftoto
Yeah
Philliesfan4life
they do start with both, but I doubt they would deal both for sale, I think the white sox would prefer gallo.
Gerry G
Both of those guys wouldn’t get you Sale
Philliesfan4life
Gallo + Tate and Brinson would get them sale or quintana
Bruin1012
I’s sorry but no it would not get Sale
Outlaws12
No way that gets Sale
One Fan
I agree. It would start with both those two then more
nielsenkp
Yeah we would. I’d do Gallo, Profar, Ortiz, Demeritte and 2 B-/C specs for Sale in a heartbeat. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rangers were the team that offered “a kings ransom.”
CubsFanJack
I think we as fans go through different periods of how we value prospects. There seems to be points in which all fans seem to value prospects highly, and then there are times when all fans value prospects less. And it seems to depend on your team too, teams with a track record of developing good MLB players (BOS, CHC, STL, PIT, SF, KC, NYM) to name a few, seem to over value their prospects in all of these fan commenting sections whereas fans of teams who struggle to develop their own homegrown guys of late (NYY, CHW) to name a couple seen to undervalue prospects. The truth of the matter is that we as fans are usually somewhere inbetween where the MLB is, and we should be able to understand from both perspectives, Red Sox fans are loath to give up Moncada and Bendetti, etc which is understandable with all the hype those guys get, and with their track record of developing quality MLB players from their prospects (JBJ, Betts, X-man, Dustin) to name a few, whereas the Yankees current best homegrown player is Betances… So yankees fans want those guys to feel confident in, which is why they’re thinking they’ll get a top 25 prospect for Chapman, when there’s about a 0% chance of that happening, book it.
tigermr1
Thanks for finally saying it
adyo4552
Andrew Miller brought back Eduardo Rodriguez, I think its fair to say Aroldis Chapman could bring back a similar-level prospect from a contender.
CubsFanJack
it is, but E-rod at the time was not a top 25 prospect at the time.
southi
I will agree that it appears that teams with some success developing top prospects tend to value them highly.
I wonder though how much of that high evaluation is in a small way accredited to short memories on forgetting the disappointment of failures. Boston also has had it’s share of disappointment in the last few years. Guys like Middlebrooks, Dubront, Brentz, and even Swihart just to name a few didn’t live up to all the hype once lauded upon them.
I’m not saying that any of those names were as highly praised as Moncada or Benintendi, nor am I saying that they have been total zeroes nor have chances still to be decent. I’m only saying that sometimes the players advertised as being great don’t always live up to those high praises. When a team has a few fantastic successes, then it is easy to forget that disappointment which leads to some high valuations by fans.
staypuft
Hey look, a voice of reason.
TJECK109
How about a deal involving Meadows and Gallo? Don’t know how the depth in Texas OF is but with Gallo at 3rd and Josh Bell at 1B that could be a nice middle of the order to go with Polanco, Marte and Cutch
wahoomaniac
Not a bad thought but prospect-for=prospect trades almost never happen. I can’t think of the last time I saw one. I think teams are just afraid of it looking bad if it doesn’t work out for them.
GeauxRangers
Lewis Brinson would project as our CF at some point assuming Desmond walks in FA which I think he will unfortunately
Robertowannabe
As a Pirates fan, would hate to miss out on Meadows. He extends the length of time that the Bucs can claim a top 3 outfield. Just my opinion but would rather have Meadows replacing McCutchen than Gallo.
Sky14
Tend to agree. Trading 6+ years of Meadows because he might be blocked for 1 year doesn’t make a ton of sense. As for Gallo, he definitely has the higher ceiling but he seems more likely to be the next Alvarez.
Robertowannabe
I was thinking of the Gallo/Pedro thing myself. Have not seen him play but a quick look of the stats made me wonder if they would be similar.
letsgobucs
As a Pirates fan, I drool at the idea of adding Gallo and his power to the lineup, but it would be tough to figure him in. Jung Ho and Bell will man the corners full-time next season, and honestly I’m not sure where Jung Ho would go if not at 3B. When he’s healthy, he’s shown he can be a very solid MLB 3B. Bell is going to be an instant star when eh comes up for good, which should be soon. Gallo would be a monster at PNC Park though, just can’t see the Bucs trading Meadows for him and for anyone at this point.
Phil Merkel
Pirates have no one the Rangers want or need.
hellacious07
Here’s the deal. Cleveland all in this year and overpay for Chapman and Beltran with Frazier, Clevinger, and another prospect going to NY. I’m a Yankees fan. Cashman, please sell. Please.
mikeyst13
Cleveland is not in a one year window though. For the same price or a little more they could probably get Smith and Lucroy and still have both around to make a run again next year.
hellacious07
Agreed. Add Miller to the mix.
Sizemore24Tribe
exactly
ccn103
Anyone consider the fact that Cutch has lost it and may never get it back? How about the Pirates keep the kid with unlimited potential and years of team control, and trade the guy who’s making $15 million, hitting .240, and is on pace to strike out 175 times?
raef715
was talking to a Pirates fan who was saying much the same thing.
Robertowannabe
Have posted that sentiment here already. Cutch will be the one being traded. It is not a question as to if, it is a question as to when. I think next July will be the earliest and latest will be after the season. Will depend more on Meadows than it will be for McCutchen. Same thing for Jaso. He is signed but will be traded the moment they deem Bell’s defense will be good enough to play every day in the bigs.
37santobanks
Trade Mccutchen and promote Meadows. Cutch is actually in the negative WAR this year (-0.4) and would still bring a gigantic haul to a team with an outfield need for the next few years. Just a thought anyway.
ThePriceWasRight
I’m saying right now the angels will trade for McCutcheon in the off-season.
halos101
yet have nobody to trade for mccutchen
Ray Ray
Horrible idea. Even if Meadows hits his ceiling, which is unlikely in his career and virtually impossible in 2016, it still isn’t as high as McCutchen. Yes McCutchen has had a rough year, but I don’t think I would call him a negative player no matter what WAR says. He always is a threat every time he comes to the plate. You aren’t getting a replacement player to create the energy and excitement when Cutch comes to the plate in a tie game. The Pirates have a chance at the WC and, if the Cubs don’t right their ship, even the NL Central. It’s not unheard of to make up 8.5 games in 2+ months.
tylerall5
Sorry dude, have to disagree with you. Meadows has just as high of a ceiling as Cutch did when he was a prospect. Cutch is starting his descent. He is the face of the franchise, but bucco fans know that he won’t be back when his contract is up, just like the Neil Walker situation. Pirate fans would be furious if Meadows is traded, because they realize that with a small market team, you can’t keep all your players. Cutch will be traded a year before his contract is up and Meadows is going to take over his spot. I do however believe Marte will be the center fielder with Meadows playing left
Robertowannabe
McCutchen will be traded but in the off season or this time next year. He is starting to decline and he will still bring back a higher return that Meadows will…Obviousely Ray Ray, you have not watched Andrew on a daily basis. He is still above average as a player but nowhere near where he was. Makes some miscues in the field that he did not use to and missing a lot of pitches this year at the plate. Have been following Meadows for 2 years. He will be a stud. As you say,he may not reach the level that Andrew reached at his peak but he will be better in the future than what Andrew will be. from this point on. Andrew will bring back more in a trade than Meadows would. Unless somebody really knocked Huntington’s socks off, Meadows stays put and comes up maybe during the stretch and latest next year mid season. Sadly, Andrew’s days will be numbered but he will not be worth a huge extension that he will get when he goes FA.. The longest Cutch will be with the Bucs after the end of the 2017 season. I thank Andrew for what he did and hope he gets very rich in his next deal after he brings the Bucs a bunch in return when he gets traded.
DeadliestCatch
I dont see Texas trading Gallo unless they get a significant piece back long term.
Profar has been excellent this year but thats not enough to trade Gallo hoping Profar stays healthy.
If anything. They could shift andrus or profar to the outfield, move fielder to the DH, and put gallo at 1st. Just to create room for everyone
They could have desmond/ profar or adrus /mazara as the outfield with beltre, andrus or profar, odor, gallo as the infield.
I dont see them keeping mooreland. Dudes got a wRC of 86 this season batting .235/.300/.433 in a very hitter friendly park.
Phil Merkel
Andrus is nothing more than an average SS…he would not ever agree to go to the OF. Profar, on the other hand, will play anywhere to get exposure to his athleticism.
spudchukar
With Lance Lynn returning to the St. Lours rotation in, 2017, Alexander Reyes would seem to fit the description.
stl_cards16 2
Agreed. All 5 of the current starters are also under contract for 2016. With Weaver also pitching lights out in AA, you have to at least wonder if Reyes would be dangled if a big name were to come available.
young 2
Personally I say trade Gallo plus others for the best pitcher available. You can sign a Gallo style hitter in the off season. I can think of a few soon to be free agents that fit the Gallo style hitting. Lot of Homeruns and high strike outs. Edwin Encarnación, José Bautista, and Mark Trumbo all would fit the bill.
Ray Ray
It could even be lower. I have heard some scout say he could end up as Mark Reynolds Part 2. Now Reynolds is a serviceable player and has had a solid career, but I wouldn’t trade a TOR starter for a young Reynolds led package. If they can get that for Gallo, they should try. If he turns out better than that, well sometimes it happens, but it’s better than not trying.
GeauxRangers
He could end up as Mark Reynolds or he could end up as Chris Davis. He probably hasn’t reached his potential yet so nobody knows.
padnastikador
Nobody knows what Gallo will end up being, but everybody knows he has a ton of power. Power is the toughest of the 5 tools to find. Cheap power is even tougher. You don’t just give it away for the best pitcher available. That’s how GM’s lose their jobs. Trading a young, cheap slugger, with enormous potential, and signing an aging, 15-20 mil a year veteran, for multiple years, is exactly what you Don’t Do.
Phil Merkel
Even for Chris Sale????
padnastikador
Yes for Chris Sale. I was assuming Chris Sale, Chris Archer types weren’t available. For a Sale you give up Gallo, Profar and more.
GeauxRangers
It’s easy to say that but you have to look at salary budget constraints as well. Gallo will make 500k league min but if we sign one of the players you mention we might not have enough money to keep Desmond or Darvish. So if you go through with your plan you’re still going to end up giving something away in the end
CTBrowns
The Indians aren’t trading Clint Frazier for a middle reliever. It’s just not going to happen, for more reasons than I care to state.
wahoomaniac
No. But how about Lucroy?
Sizemore24Tribe
only if it includes Smith, I’d prefer to trade zimmer
norcalguardiansfan
That might happen.
joew
If Cutch was having a bit better year, i’d consider trading him can call up Meadows instead… IF the deal was decent. Similar to how McCluth was traded to make room for Cutch.
Duno if i would be able to pull the trigger though… Cutch seems great for the team and city.
Robertowannabe
Sadly he will be going. No way will the Pirates want to pay a huge contract with him heading into his mid 30’s He will be more valuable to the Pirates after next season as a trade piece than he would be as an extremely highly paid outfielder.
yanks10379
I think what people are forgetting is that the market will be set by a GM and that is what most likely will dictate the price in a trade. For ex. Boston over payed for Pomeranz. There is no debating this. But I think Dombrowski was smart bc he recognized a flaw in his team and decided to be the first one through the wall. It was high but imagine now what the price teams will be asking for thier rentals or pitchers with term left. It put sellers in the advantage and buyers in the disadvantage. The real question now is how close are you to a World Series? And are you going to go after the high end talent it takes to win or try and get by with second tier talent? If the Cubs win and Montgomery was the piece they needed then Theo will be looked at as a genius. But what will the reaction be when Team B gets Miller or Chapman and rides the strong bullpen to the world series like the Royals? My take is simple, don’t trash a GM for high asking prices. The market gets set and you either go for it or don’t. It’s just the price of winning. I applaude Dombrowski though for getting in first!
donniebaseball
I disagree with Torres being a likely trade chip this summer. Since he’s years away, it makes more sense for the Cubs to trade prospects who are closer to the bigs and blocked (Canderlario for example). They should be trying to trade their prospects that are on their 40 man roster so they don’t lose significant talent from the rule 5 draft.
Bob M.
Also worth noting Josh Bell is still a better right fielder than he is a first baseman. That FO knows it’s a waste of value having him at first base. Just another reason Meadows could go. Mccutchen following.
buctheworld
Meadows isn’t going anywhere especially with cutch struggling and NH has shown he’s never really interested in trading top 5 prospects for deadline help