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A-Rod the GOAT
I completely agree with cashman’s comments… I’ve thoroughly enjoyed watching Miller dominate this postseason (not so much a Chapman fan). Was hoping Beltran would hit some big HRs and get a shot at a much deserved World Series title as well.
Looking forward to 2017 though, go Yanks!
gomerhodge71
O’s should be open to discussing Britton if the right offer is made. The chances of Zach having 2, 3, or 4 more seasons even remotely resembling 2016 are very slim. Strike while the iron is hot.
RoadRunner1938
Would be a smart move could get more than the Yankees got for Chapman or Miller. O’s could plug some holes they have & help the minor system
dwilson10
I agree. He would get the O’s a huge return that could help their minors and major league team. He would get the O’s a bigger return than what the Yankees got for Chapman since he is controllable for I think 2 or 3 more years. Britton could easily bring back a solid pitching prospect (maybe even a teams top pitching prospect) and probably 2-3 more top prospects.
connorreed
Not saying it wouldn’t be a smart move for the O’s,
Sure, Britton won’t replicate 2016 – it’s been one of the greatest seasons by a closer ever, but how do you get the idea that his future won’t be remotely close?
This isn’t the first year for Britton. Compare him to the top closers in baseball over the past three years. He has the best line among all of them.
Britton: 1.38 ERA, 0.91 WHIP, 94% SV rate, 8% IR score
Jansen: 2.32 ERA, 0.86 WHIP, 91% SV rate, 32% IR score
Chapman: 1.72 ERA, 0.96 WHIP, 93% SV rate, 39% IR score
Melancon: 1.85 ERA, 0.92 WHIP, 93% SV rate, 30% IR score
Kimbrel: 2.48 ERA, 1.01 WHIP, 92% SV rate, 21% IR score
Familia: 2.20 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 87% SV rate, 28% IR score
joeflaccosunibrow
How often do closers dominate for more than a couple years? Gagne, KRod, they flame out. I doubt we have a Lee Smith or Trevor Hoffman on our hands. While I do love me some Zach, if we got a haul like we did for Jonesy (hell even what Cashman got this year), pull the trigger. We need cheap, young talent to help compete on the cheap. We have to pay Machado soon or else he will be in pinstripes.
connorreed
That’s true – closers are a very risky business.
However, I think Britton is highly unlikely to follow in the footsteps of Brian Wilson, Trevor Rosenthal, or John Axford. Typically, most of these relievers that flame out rely heavily on high velocity fastballs that they can just blow by hitters, but not Britton.
The key to his success is his sinker, which he throws over 90% of the time. It gets guys to ground out at historical rates. It’s got a very good velocity, but not anywhere close to some of the game’s other closers. And while I’m not suggesting he’s Mariano Rivera, just look at the Sandman’s career. He, like Britton, relied on a single pitch that had great movement and was very deceptive. Because of that, he remained effective his entire career, from when it was sitting around 95-96 during the beginning to when it dropped to 91-92 near the end. So I see Britton being a very special reliever – one who will consistently put forward excellent seasons for some time.
And I also agree that extending Machado is more important, but they don’t need to do that until the 2018-2019 off-season. By that time, Gallardo, Miley, Jimenez, Hardy, and Jones will all be off the books – that’s about $70 million right there. Even with the money owed to Chris Davis, I think it’s very possible for Baltimore to extend both Machado and Britton before they hit the market in 2019. And with that, you still have three seasons left on Gausman, two on Bundy, and one on Schoop. Personally, I think it might even be a better idea to try to move Tillman this off-season with such a bare SP market if they don’t plan on extending him. .
That’s my take on it – but like I said, I wouldn’t think it’s an awful idea to trade Britton. However, considering Melancon, Chapman, and Jansen (not to mention Casilla, Holland, Zeigler, K-Rod, Papelbon, and Romo) are all free agents this year, the O’s might not be able to get as much as they could for him.
brandons-3
Love Cashman’s comments. Prospects are gold, but it’s almost reached a point where proven commodities are devalued in lieu of prospects.
bernbabybern
Weiters may be the best free agent catcher available, but Brian McCann will be available in trade.
RoadRunner1938
Im not sure the Yankees trade him hes has more value to keep then trade but could get a good return for him
theruns
McCann is a 33 year old catcher who just put up a 0.9 WAR at $17 million per, and he’s still got 2 years left. I can’t imagine he’s got much value.
k Deforge
Yankees have to keep there fingers crossed, that these 3 top 20 prospects make it to the majors! Not every prospect does!
k Deforge
Like Michael Kay was saying… There not there Heat. Maybe a couple of years!
ducksnort69
Kevin Cash’s lack of experience is so obvious after following Maddon. Maddon had decades of hands on experience and it complimented the openness to the statistical side. Cash is just following the spreadsheet and Front Office without the much needed hands on experience to compliment it.
Cam
I’d definitely like to see examples of this.
ducksnort69
Okay, a good example would be the way he handled the rotation. The org thought limiting starters to only 2 times through the order was going to be the new 2%. Cash implemented the strategy with zero nuance. Maddon would implement such strategies, but he tweaked things based on his own hunches from prior experience. Cash could have been more nuanced on which starters to use this method with or incorporate what he was seeing the pitcher and hitters doing in game. Instead he would often pull a starter having a good outing after 80 pitches in the 6th only to see the bullpen implode.
therealryan
Expect this isn’t really true. The Rays’ starters ranked 12th in IP and threw the 5th most pitches this past season. Hardly seems like a manager who is consistently pulling his starters too early.
morgannyy 2
Bet the Giants wish THEY got involved in talks with Cashman
totoiv
The O’s should upgrade at back up catcher. Hey, I like Caleb Joseph and he had a horrific injury this year. But, the dud couldn’t bat over .200 and had 0 RBIs. He hit into some many inning ending double plays it was painful to watch. The same goes for Ryan Flaherty (sub .200).. I know these are Buck’s guys, but the Os need more production at all spots, including the back ups.
wrxman
The Orioles need to have a lead in the ninth inning for Britton to be relevant