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mike156
Want to bet that Cashman was unhappy with the Marlins’ driving up the price (using revenue sharing money) when Loria probably had no intention of actually signing Chapman, just doing one of his periodic “see, I’m not pocketing the cash, I really want to be competitive” routines?
No one need cry for the Yankees–they have the scratch. I still think this was a deal they should have passed on.
chound
No White Sox fan needs my opinion but keep doing what you’re doing… Braves rebuild looks solid but yours could be done before the season even starts… To me, that’s unbelievably amazing!
canyon2129
Just incredible restock by White Sox. At this rate, they will have all number 1’s with leverage. Never seen it done better. They should teach classes on it. Bravo, White Sox.
FenwayFaithfulDevilsFan
Not often do I feel the majority of deals were home runs for all teams involved. Minus the Eaton deal which the Nationals probably lost, the White Sox, Cubs, Royals, Red Sox and Brewers all improved with the deals made with the White Sox and Red Sox as the clear winners at the meetings.
Congrats to all teams involved. Even the Nats filled a need, even if they vastly overpaid to do it. It’s hard to doubt Rizzo as his reputation speaks for itself.
chitown311
And just wait and see what they get back for Quintana. Probably equivalent to what they got for Eaton. Then you have David Robertson, Jose Abreu, Todd Frazier, and Melky Cabrera to deal, which could net a hand full of really good prospects, if not 2 or 3 blue chip prospects. Future will be here sooner than anticipated for the White Sox
FenwayFaithfulDevilsFan
Totally agree. With the haul the should get back for the remaining trade candidates, they could have a 30% success rate on the prospects they bring back and still field a competitive, young, controllable team ready to contend by 2019-2020. That’s an incredibly fast overhaul! I mean, even Theo asked for 5 years when he took his position on the other side of town. Talking about a 2-4 year transition for a team like the White Sox is incredibly impressive.
nrd1138
Lets also see if the White Sox can find some one year rentals to flip by the AS break as the Cubs front office did. I think what people are forgetting a bit is while it is good the Sox are getting these pieces back, it does not address the development, or lack thereof, of their draft picks over the past 10 seasons. Pitchers, yes, but very few position players up until Anderson, and this past draft where it looks like the Sox got a decent OF. I want to see the Sox develop these guys, that is I think the bigger question no one is asking.
FenwayFaithfulDevilsFan
Totally agree, but 2 things to remember that should give some comfort. First, these players were scouted and developed at the lower levels by the Boston Red Sox who have a very good track record in the area of scouting and player development. Second, the White Sox haven’t really brought in prospects of this magnitude, scouted by a team like Boston who went out and ate $60 million (half of which was in penalties) just to bring Moncada in,
Moncada is pretty much ready to go. As Rick Renteria pointed out today, you can’t read too far into his 12 strikeouts in 20 PAs. This kid has never seen this level of pitching that understands how to exploit weakness. He will learn, and his abilities will make that curve very quick. Its pretty hard for even the worst of development systems to hurt Moncada’s chances.=
And this is coming from a Boston fan. I am sick to my stomach losing those 2. I just understand you don’t get Chris Sale without giving up those 2 if you aren’t willing to part with Betts or Bogaerts, Combined, those two could be worth more than Betts or Bogy in the long term, which is crazy considering Betts is already a MVP runner up and Bogy was on pace to compete for the batting title for a good part of 2016.
wags16
Do you think the cards will Pursue EE or Trumbo? (I hope so)
tucker
I could see them landing EE or Trumbo if the market fails to improve for the players. Cardinals already forfeited their first pick when they signed Dex, so losing the next pick wouldn’t sting as much.
smelliott00
I think if the Cardinals go get another player it will be Edwin or Turner. I don’t see Mo getting involved in the Trumbo sweepstakes unless it drops to an incredibly low number.
EndinStealth
I honestly doubt they are serious about either.
Connorsoxfan
I was thinking to myself what a ridiculous farm system the white Sox would have if they sold off everyone, and they still have more to give. It’s ridiculous.
nrd1138
Yeah, but had to build it with a bunch of guys from other team systems. I want to see the White Sox ‘right the ship’ in terms of getting draft and FA minor leaguers developed.
I would rather see the Sox keep Quintana, but if they could get a landslide deal for him then I can see why he goes.
vvadnala
Yeah of their current top 10 prospects (according MLB.com), 6 were acquired this week. I’m sure there are more to come from Quintana, Frazier, and Robertson. I’m not sold they’ll trade Abreu this offseason.
nrd1138
I think it is more likely Quintana sticks around than Abreu (but would like to see them both stay)
Priggs89
I’m not sold on them trading Abreu either. I think he could be a big asset in the development of Moncada.
That being said, if they get a really good offer, I’m all for it.
FenwayFaithfulDevilsFan
I was thinking this when Moncada went to Chicago. Wouldn’t it be something if Abreu and Moncada turned into the Cuban edition of Ortiz / Ramirez? I mean, we are talking obviously if they both reach their ceiling, but I don’t want to face those two back to back. Throw in Anderson in front of them and that beginning/middle of the lineup is looking mighty strong. If just a few others work out and round out the back end of that lineup, watch out Central. Here come the White Sox.
I’m not a Chicago fan, but I’m glad to see them make these moves before its too late and they don’t get what they want (as the Phillies did for example). I also think the wait clearly paid off, as both the Nationals and Red Sox took huge leaps of faith in dumping all that talent. The White Sox would not have convinced either team to make this move 365 days ago.
timyanks
the story about the cardinals signing edwin or trumbo wasn’t even a rumor. it was a figment of a writers imagination. “fake news” story
timyanks
They could become more aggressive than previously believed, turning toward free-agent sluggers Mark Trumbo and Edwin Encarnacion as possible pursuits.
stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cardinal…
Dannydeman
Idk I think people are being a little too high on what the white sox are doing. Prospects are prospects and even most ones that you hit on take a while to hit stride at the major league level. You lost an elite pitchers with 3 years at 12 per and a valuable outfielder making pennies on the dollar for 5 years. What you’ve got is the likelihood that out of giolito, kopech, Lopez. That maybe one of them becomes an equal to sale (maybe) and if so only for 3 or 4 years control by the time he hits his stride. Then you got moncada who projects to hit you 10 more home runs than eaton a year, steal 40 more bags, but play worst d and seems to have a different attitude. Also moncadas clock is already ticking for free agency, he will not be ready to produce at a high level this year. I’d say you get 3 and a half years of moncada hitting 300 25hr and 45sb. That’s if he proves he can hit a major league breaking ball. People try to downplay what he did in the big leagues last year. The dude looked worse against breaking balls than I’ve ever seen anyone look in my life. Ran the bases horribly and played bad defense. also I believe your really hoping kopech and Lopez (who both still have serious control issues) become sale, because everything I’ve read about giolito has concerned me, don’t think he’s the guy anymore, nats were ready to sell high on him as a prospect and I believe the redsox did so with moncada. I’m just saying you traded two proven and high caliper players that were under team control similar to rookies for the hope that some of those prospects are even major league stays. My opinion is the white sox are over reacting to underperforming in 2016. But when you actually look at what they had there was no reason to think they shouldn’t have been buyers this off season. Chris sale at 3 years and 12 mil per. Quintana at 4 years 8 mil per. At the top of the rotation. Abreu, Frazier, eaton I the line up. You could have easily went the other direction with this.
Dannydeman
All I’m saying is you lost an elite pitcher that you had control of and gained pitching prospects kopech, Lopez. Giolito. You’re lucky if one of them even becomes an ace let alone elite. Just look at the diamondbacks as an example of what high rated pitching prospects are for you. You may very likely have traded an elite pitcher so that in 2 years you are in last place and have, Shipley, Archie Bradley, and mark Appel in your rotation just to name a few electric pitching prospects.
Dannydeman
And really the only reason I’m saying this is until all these trades I didn’t realize how good of players Chicago had. When you have chris sale for 3 years 12 and Quintana for 4. And eaton for 5. All at huge bargains. You should be retooling around them for a run. Those are 3 players you’re trying to trade??? The white sox should really have just signed encarnacion and gutted the rest of their farm for sonny gray. They would have had a great chance next season.